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Can anyone recommend a good Pembroke Corgi Breeder, preferably in the South? Not looking for show quality, just a nice tempered dog, bred responsibly. We're in no hurry as won't be looking to buy until mid next year but I'd like to be prepared and get our names on a waiting list if required.
 

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I would go through the breed club. There are lots of unscrupulous people breeding them at the moment so please be very careful. There is a notorious puppy farmer who breeds Pembrokes in South Wales whose dogs are incredibly poorly bred.

What type do you like? I prefer the older style which are more 3:2 in structure. A lot of modern breeders are breeding this like dachshunds which I, and others, really don't like but some people like.
 

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Can anyone recommend a good Pembroke Corgi Breeder, preferably in the South? Not looking for show quality, just a nice tempered dog, bred responsibly. We're in no hurry as won't be looking to buy until mid next year but I'd like to be prepared and get our names on a waiting list if required.
As has been said, it depends on what you’re after. There’s lots of variation. They are a breed I wouldn’t suggest prioritising what breeder is doing the most winning in the ring - a lot of what does well now is a super modern, super long, super low type. There are still traditional breeders around, both in and out of the ring. Find one who produces dogs that you like, and prioritises the things which matter to you.

You want to be meeting as many of the stock the breeder has bred as possible, temperament varies as much as type within this breed. I’ve met some I detest. And I’ve met some which are too wet and soppy for me.

You want to be asking questions about the lines and if there is any issues with back issues/disc issues. The traditional, correct, type - does not generally suffer back issues or IVD. Lots of the more modern type do and these are the breeders who will say ‘don’t let them do any jumping’, ridiculous, they are a stock dog and if the type they are choosing to breed is at risk of going on the furniture, then they are breeding them wrong.

DM testing is a hot potato still. Some do. Some don’t. There is ongoing research around the mode of inheritance in corgis, as there is some belief that it is different due to being a dwarf breed than in other breeds and as a result, the testing is complex. For the last twenty years they’ve been ever decreasing numerically until recently, some of the older breeders alienated themselves from the die hard testing advocates by prioritising keeping gene pools In a diminishing breed as open as possible. There are some lines which are quite genetically impoverished in my opinion.


Size matters. There are some ridiculously huge dogs out there, and equally some who are so thickset and heavy boned that they look absolutely obscene. This fashion for being overdone will kill out the quality as much as the fashion for breeding draught excluders which crawl around the ring.


Many of the old breeders are slowly retiring, and generally they bred the best in my opinion. The breeder of my bitch is Liz Cartledge under the Ryslip affix, a Grand Canyon sized wealth of corgi knowledge, a great sense of humour and just generally good fun to spend time with! She stopped a few years ago though, mine was from one of the last few litters. My dog is from Richbourne, who have had all their dogs from Liz and breed a nice sound type, not as sharp as my bitch. I know of a repeat mating which has taken place, and a planned mating for next year - both with litter siblings of mine. I can keep my ear to the ground for you.

The Richbourne dogs, the RippleOak dogs, the Haresfoot dogs and of course the Ermyn dogs, are the lines still going I really like. There is a small breeder under the Brownieglenn affix, whose foundation bitch is a half sister to my bitch - I’ve really liked the dogs they have produced. There are other good breeders/less known lines out there too of course, but these are my personal preference or course.


There are equally really good dogs being bred by breeders who don’t show, but champion a Traditional and moderate type, or a working type - but these require even more scrutiny as many non-show breeders are out to make a quick few quid. That said, don’t discredit looking at someone who isn’t s big name or actively showing. Lots of people, myself included, think showing is destroying the breed entirely.


Be prepared to find it hard for breeders to engage. The rise in popularity of the dogs has lead to endless puppy enquiries, and most simply wouldn’t cope with them. In the wrong hands they are an utter nightmare. Plus the fact their pups seem to go before they are even fully baked to people who already own dogs from the lines.

Contacting the breed club can sometimes be fruitless, I know people who haven’t heard back for over two years. There are others who have become self appointed ‘helpers’ to find new people pups - I won’t go into the politics, but avoid like the plague. Make your own informed decisions, like every breed there is good and bad in them.

There is a big difference in gender as well as lines. Then you factor in whether you want a tail or a natural Bob tail. And then a standard coat ir a fluff, with the fluffs (long haired, profusely long haired) always having the most perfect temperament.

They are super smart, but pick up the bad habits as well as the good before you’ve even had time to think. They love their people but can pick their friends selectively. They don’t suffer fools. They will respond differently to different people, and show no deference to anyone they see as weaker willed than them. They are strong willed, they know best, and they are fiercely loyal. They are a stock dog, a good one anyway, and have been bred forever to be a bully - remember that, as it’s why establishing firm non negotiable is vital from the first moment through the front door. They are funny, charming, bewildering and all knowing. Once you have one, you can’t be without one. You also run the risk of getting addicted to them.
 
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They are very good for adventures - mine like to ‘get about’, and are up for anything really.

(In type, they are different to a lot of what you’ll see in the ring these days, despite being hailed from some of the best show champions of the last fifty years - and a few royal subjects. Basically think native pony, sturdy, built to work, a leg at each corner, and sound moving - as they should be)
 

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Thanks everyone, really appreciate the replies 😊 I'm looking for a boy, ideally more traditional type. Will take all the comments under advisement ☺️
 

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Thanks everyone, really appreciate the replies 😊 I'm looking for a boy, ideally more traditional type. Will take all the comments under advisement ☺️
The dogs in this breed are much easier than bitches in my experience. Some can be a bit spicy with other males around 12 months, and need firmly but fairly keeping in check. Mine is the most laid back, Labrador-esc creature. He’s a school therapy dog, amongst other things. Doesn’t particularly like or wish for the company of anyone other than my partner and I, yet somehow gushes entirely over every child upon the planet -very attuned to those with disabilities and/or learning needs too. Reads a room well - but then again, they are super bright.
 
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Dogs are much easier than bitches in my experience. Some can be a bit spicy with other males around 12 months, and need firmly but fairly keeping in check. Mine is the most laid back, Labrador-esc creature. He’s a school therapy dog, amongst other things. Doesn’t particularly like or wish for the company of anyone other than my partner and I, yet somehow gushes entirely over every child upon the planet -very attuned to those with disabilities and/or learning needs too. Reads a room well - but then again, they are super bright.
I'd second this, my boy was a therapy dog, would plonk himself on friends in crisis and all around good boy. The bitch we had was much higher strung, sharp and would take on dogs 4 times her size for her own entertainment if given half a chance.
 

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I'd second this, my boy was a therapy dog, would plonk himself on friends in crisis and all around good boy. The bitch we had was much higher strung, sharp and would take on dogs 4 times her size for her own entertainment if given half a chance.
This - my bitch genuinely does make bad choices to make her own entertainment. That isn’t because she isn’t offered mental stimulation, it’s just she would take it 24/7 if allowed.

I should stress in my previous post I meant dogs are easier than bitches specifically in this breed.
 

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I would go through the breed club. There are lots of unscrupulous people breeding them at the moment so please be very careful. There is a notorious puppy farmer who breeds Pembrokes in South Wales whose dogs are incredibly poorly bred.

What type do you like? I prefer the older style which are more 3:2 in structure. A lot of modern breeders are breeding this like dachshunds which I, and others, really don't like but some people like.
I was looking at getting another Pembroke Corgi, but didnt like the heavy build of the modern ones.

I got my one and only Corgi nearly 30 years ago from Bexhill, the mother was the older "leggier" type but Skippy took after her sire for her build. Even so, she looked moderate compared to today's dogs.

In the end I got a Whippet - totally different in build and character from any dog I've owned as an adult😈
 
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