Could he do M&M ? (Cob experts please)

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Well this is Danny (second danny
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he's a welsh cob and is about 15hh (have'nt got round to measuring him yet
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. I'm no cob expert so is he nice 'stamp' of a Sec. D ?
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my two questions are :
a) Is he too big to do m&m classes
b) Do I have to ride him in a double bridle or a Pelham or can I just keep my snaffle ?


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He is not to big to do M&M, and it is up to you what bit you use, but it looks better if ridden double or pelham, unless its a novice class than it must be a snaffle
 
I've got a 15hh welsh cob who is not breed typical and we do M&M classes as well as the section D classes. Some judges prefer to see him in the M&M class and we'll get placed right down the bottom in teh Welsh classes but then next time out we'll maybe come 2nd in the section D and last in the m&m class.
I would use a pelham with two reins in showing classes
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He's nice. I like him. From the photo he appears to have a nice short back & good length of neck which is where cobs types are often lacking IMO. If he goes correctly in a snaffle at local level there is no need to put him in a pelham or double bridle (although double reins do tend to create a more professional look).

Section D's are meant to be around 15 hands, I did county level showing on a black section D that was 15.1. Bigger cobs often tend to do better when shown than cobs that are only just over the breed minimum height as they appear to have more presence (even if it it just because they are a couple of inches bigger!). It's difficult to see in your photo but does he have a full mane & tail? Make sure you show him in a very traditional, plain hunt bridle as this will show his head off nicely. If you can get hold of a nice, straight cut saddle this will make the most of his shoulder which looks lovely. Make sure you put lots of chalk on his white sock & star to highlight these & I think he will look quite flash!
 
Wow thanks for all the information , only ever groomed for a Non-native coloured so had no idea where to start
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He does have a full mane and tail
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Nice chap and I would very carefully trim him a little - his mane would look better a little short - to show off his neck and shoulder. If you google showing welsh Ds you should find some photos of how to get the mane and guide to the careful trimming you may do.

He will need to have a more chunky look - by this I mean topline muscle rather than fat.

He looks nice and I am sure you will have fun and do well with him.
 
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He will need to have a more chunky look - by this I mean topline muscle rather than fat.


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Yes he's been off work for a year (well hacked once a month) so he is on a diet and is the leader of fat fighters at the yard
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he is identical to one of mine and he does really well in the show ring ,white halter for in hand and teach him to run up really well no good dawdleing along ride in which ever bit you think he does best in puk alow doubles in novice classes bsps dont riding clubs varie good luck with him/her
 
Bloomin computer won't load your pic but I show a 15.2hh welsh D, height is never a problem and there is a school of thought that says "fill the judge's eye" (bigger gets noticed more).

It is correct to show M&M with two sets of reins. I get the impressio you're a bit worried or don't want to do this?
It doesn't matter if you don't use the curb (I used to ride making sure they were just a tad longer than the other set), and at a native showing clinic this year the judge said she didn't mind if you don't have a curb chain or lip strap on either, its just correct turnout to have 2 reins.

Also bear in mind most bits can be ordered in a pelham (i.e. french link, snaffle, happy mouth as well as straight bar) and if you don't actually use the curb rein then the bit will act like your normal bit if you get me. Having said that, if you're unsafe or he goes terribly then a snaffle bridle is better, and at local shows you see quite a lot like that.

Lots of Welshie ringcraft tips available if you want to PM me. The biggie is make sure he is awake - no doubt somebody will shoot me down for this but welsh Ds show themselves off best when they are forward going, active, and maybe even have a mischievous glint in their eye! Obviously I don't mean be out of control or dangerous, but make sure he's not tired before your M&M class.

Oh, and if you do decide to take a pelham and you want to do other classes too, don't do what I did last weekend forget to take your snaffle too!
 
i showed my old Welsh Section D who is 15.1hh and I intend to show my new one who is 15.2hh once he's filled out a bit. Big is good, as long as they retain the pony characteristics - too big and they lose this. The majority are around 15hh. You can use a snaffle in novice classes, but otherwise a pelham or double is correct. I knew he was a Welsh D as soon as I saw your other post before you posted his breed, so I would say he is pretty typey and should do well in the show ring if his schooling is good. They dont need to be fat to do well, but they do need good topline and to look chunky - it comes with muscle and good feeding, not over-feeding.
 
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