Could I have handled this share situation better?

kyanya

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Just in need of some impartial advice please - I'm having a bad day and beginning to doubt myself.

As a bit of background, I'd been sharing a horse (P) at a local yard since about last October. P was only on loan there though, and in January time I was told P would be going back to his actual home, so leaving the yard, around the end of February. I let others on the yard know I'd like to keep sharing at the yard if anyone else needed a sharer, and I had soon had an offer to try another horse on the yard (H), which I did and liked (all with P's loaners permission).

I then agreed with H's owner that I'd start sharing when P left the yard. I was then told that P would be leaving at the end of March, and agreed with both P and H's owners that I would do each one day a week during March, which seemed to work for everyone, as P wasn't in regular work, it'd give me a chance to get used to H and meant I still did 2 evenings per week as normal.

The start of March came and I was doing both P and H 1 night per week (both set days, only needing to groom/tack up/ride/put to bed/feed), then on the third week my OH fell down the stairs one morning, had to go to A&E and then was laid up at home. This was my day to do H, so I text H's owner in the morning saying I couldn't ride cos I felt bad to leave OH alone in the evening as well as all day, but offered to go up if anything needed doing, but she seemed fine and said I didn't need to go to the yard.
The following week I was at the theatre with work on the night I did H - I let the owner know the day before I couldn't make it to the yard.

It was now end of March, P had left the yard and I was meant to be doing H 2 nights per week, although these hadn't been set and agreed because H's owner had started having lessons on 1 of the nights a week I'd been doing before (the one I'd been doing P on), but hadn't discussed it with me. However, on the weekend at the end of March, I went to ride a friends horse and fell off jumping. By Tuesday, my back had become really painful so I went to the doctors. They told me give it time and don't ride until it feels better, so I reluctantly took this advice as I couldn't have coped if the pain got worse, and told H's owner I wouldn't be able to ride for a while. I did offer to go up and spend time with H on my evenings, but H's owner said not to worry cos she'd be at the yard anyway.

A week later, by back had been feeling better until I managed to pull it again, so I updated H's owner, who said not to worry as she didn't want her schooled that week as she was doing dressage as the weekend. I asked her if she minded me going along to watch at the weekend (as I hadn't seen either her or H for a while) and I never got a response.

H's owner text me today to ask if I'd be riding - I said my back isn't quite right, but hopefully I'd be able to ride again next week. She text me back saying not to worry about riding H anymore, as she needs someone consistent.

So could I have handled this better? Could I have avoided it? I'll be looking at sharing again, not sure if at this yard or another, but I want to try and avoid this happening again - I don't like annoying people or messing people around.
 
Being an owner I can empathise with her! Due to unreliable sharers (most didnt have a valid reason like you do) I now no longer have sharers! IMO you could have given more warning for the theatre/asked for a different day and if your back is bad given a little more warning, I expect at least 48 hours but would like warning as early as possible! Sorry if this sounds harsh, but if I was H's owner I also would question you sharing my horse as you didnt ride H in over a month? Good luck finding a new one though and hope your back gets better soon! :)
 
I understand your issues, when you couldn't go, etc., but people have shared because they either need the time input and/or the money. If someone thinks you're due to go but then can't/don't, the person has to get something organised.

If we are crock, etc., it's academic, we still have to go to do the horses. If we were relying on someone else, we too would want consistency.

I appreciate your days were set in stone, but that was a conversation you should have had at the start.

Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but if you're going to share again, agree in advance the days, and agree what the pair of you will do if the other can't go to the horse on their day.
 
It's very unfortunate, but I don't think you could have. Life just conspired against you and H's owner on this occasion.
 
TBH I think I would have been frustrated by this and would have looked for another sharer. If it had happened after a long time of reliable sharing then it might be different. Unfortunately you had not established a pattern (except the wrong type!) and the owner probably felt that this was an indication of how things would progress in the future. Whilst none of this was directly your fault I think more notice of booked evenings off (going out) would be expected. As Mrs. M says people have sharers because they need the time/money/input of another person, if I am ill I still go and do my horses and if it means leaving OH on his own for an hour or so - well so be it;) If you have a commitment then you need to honour it.
 
It all sounds pretty unavoidable from your end but that really is a terrible start to share agreement and I would have done exactly the same as H's owners - looked for someone more reliable!
 
Being an owner I can empathise with her! Due to unreliable sharers (most didnt have a valid reason like you do) I now no longer have sharers! IMO you could have given more warning for the theatre/asked for a different day and if your back is bad given a little more warning, I expect at least 48 hours but would like warning as early as possible! Sorry if this sounds harsh, but if I was H's owner I also would question you sharing my horse as you didnt ride H in over a month? Good luck finding a new one though and hope your back gets better soon! :)



Ditto Snowy.

As a sharer you have the luxury of being able to text and say you can't make it because of XYZ as an owner you have to do your horse regardless of XYZ. It shows commitment.

If as an owner I want a sharer its because i'm strapped for time myself therefore leaving me having to sort alternative arrangements short notice is not great. Sorry but i'd have done the same and found someone else.
 
Agree with most of the others, as an owner I'd be disappointed with the number of cancellations...happy that you'd bothered to keep me informed but I too would be looking for someone else to take over the care. It's unfortunate that so many things happened but needing someone reliable and consistant I'm afraid alarm bells would ring with so many cancellations that early into the share and I'd cancel the arrangement. Shame for you but it's just one of those things.
 
I can see why the owner changed her mind yes but it's all down to bad case of bad timing really so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Yes come sunshine or rain horses need seeing to but your back is a precious thing, if you feel that you needed to rest it rather than risk making it worse and being crippled for another few weeks or what ever, than that was a wise decision also, just not one that suited your new sharer.

Make sure your 100% better, find another sharer, hopefully the same situation won't crop up again.

No falling off in future :D
 
Mmmm probably a conversation would have been better than the odd text.

And as a sharer - even when your back is bad - you would still need to do the horse, surely?? Even if you weren't riding.
 
Firstly I would not be conducting these convo's by text- but maybe that is just me.

I am a sharer, and if I can not go on my said day- always offer to be there another day- with things like trips out.

I hurt my back not so long ago- is still not 100% now, but i still went to the yard to see B- despite not being able to do anything with him- just to spend time etc-- especially as yours is a fairly new arrangement- bonding time is important- even if she says not to bother- it shows willing.

Yes life throws curve balls sometimes, and if you can not get there for whatever reason at short notice then all you can do is let them know asap, and really the owner should not be grumpy about that- if it really is unavoidable!
 
Agree with what has been said.

In terms of what you could have done differently (aside from banning your OH from the upstairs and not riding other people's horses, lol) in addition to more notice for theatre trip would be to have actually gone up on your nights anyway even if you didn't need to (it sounds like the owner goes up anyway and you'd only go to ride?) and maybe just spent time with the horse.

Would have shown your commitment in those early days and maybe you could have lunged or taken the horse for a walk in hand or just groomed (appreciate with bad back you'd be limited but it would be the show of intention that was important).
 
I don't think it's your fault and life gets in the way, but as the owner, I would have been very frustrated and would have waved you goodbye. For me, it gives me a day off or money to maintain my boy in luxury :rolleyes: so I'd want consistency and if the sharer really gives a damn, I reckon they'd be up to see the horse anyway or arrange a different day at the very least.
 
Whilst I sympathise OP. I think in the situation, I would have doen teh same as H's owner.

I have a very casual sharer - basically a lady who rides my old cob when shes free on a saturday morning and she always gives at least a week/ten days notice if she cant come down.

If she isnt sure about a date she will say she cant come rather than leaving it until closer to the time and having to cancel at short notice.

I understand that illness and accidents cant be helped, but as a horse owner I have to drag myself to the yard regardless (having a very unsupportive OH I have manged to muck out through broken bones, swine flu etc!!! but occasions like the theatre trip - you must have know about that more than 24hrs in advance???

I know that as a sharer you arent comitting in the full way that an owner does, but I would look for that committment and sense of responsibility from anyone wanting to spend time with my horses.

Sorry - probably not the sort of responce you want to hear.
 
Thanks guys for all the feedback - on reflection, I think I probably could have handled it all a bit better, like giving more notice about the theatre, but as H's owner had said the week before that I didn't need to go up if I didn't have time to ride, I guess I assumed she wasn't that bothered if I went up or not - we didn't really have a share arrangment for March, just a 'getting to know each other' arrangment, which I thought was quite casual, but I'm now thinking she wasn't viewing it so casually.

Also, I knew that having me around hadn't altered H's owners routine - she still went to the yard the evenings I did, mucked out and got H in as normal, so I knew all H would miss out on was exercise without me being there, and any work I did with her was additional to her normal workload, as H's owner hadn't cut down her work with H when I started. In hindsight, this probably isn't how H's owner was viewing the situation though, so I can understand her feelings somewhat.

I was quite offended earlier as I don't think of myself as unreliable, but all your opinions have helped me see it more from H's owners point of view, and I feel better about it now - just live and learn I suppose. I think, as some have said, communication could have been better and this is something I'd definitely make more effort for in the future. Plus I think I was most concerned about H's welfare, and I knew she wouldn't suffer by me not being around; of course if H's owner had been relying on me to bring in/feed etc, I'd of been there, but I knew I wasn't being relied on for these things so I felt more relaxed about it. I suppose this wasn't how H's owner felt though, as I suppose she was expecting to see commitment, which unfortunately I suppose I haven't shown recently.

Luckily someone at the yard has now said I'm welcome to try one her horses once my back is right, as she's been tentatively looking for a sharer for a while. So fingers crossed this will work out well for me, as I've got to know this girl well since I've been sharing at this yard, she knows everything that's gone on so don't think she'd be asking me to try her mare if she didn't like the idea of me as a sharer, which is quite reassuring that not everyone thinks I'm unreliable, despite the events of the past month! And also this will give me a chance to apologise to H's owner to her face, and make sure there's no hard feelings.
 
That is nice to hear that you have another possible share.
I am sure that you were just unlucky in the timings last time.
Good luck with the next one.
 
Being on either side of the coin is quite tricky I think. And communication is the key as long as everyone is honest and up front.

I hope it all works out for you with your new share :)
 
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