Could Outshine be upsetting my horse?

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My horse has always been very fussy in the head when she gets a bit stressy, she shakes it around & throws it up and down quite violently. I've always just assumed it was her nature but I'm starting to wonder if it could be Baileys Outshine causing the problem.

I have fed it for years in small amounts and because she has always had this behavioural issue I've never put 2 & 2 together.

However I stopped feeding it for a few months & have now been back on it for about 3 weeks - the last week or so she has been throwing her head around & it struck me she hadn't actually done this for months and I'm not sure why it's started again.

Do you think it could be the Outshine?
 
I only feed it for coat shine but considering it's mainly oil I just assumed it would be pretty safe to feed. I'm now starting to wonder though as it does seem quite coincidence doesn't it ?
 
over the years I have noticed anything can effect ANY horse, they are all so different.

so yes quite possibly, try her without again and see what happens then you will have your answer.
 
why would a high oil content necessarily make it safe? (not that it's unsafe, I've fed it to no adverse effects) Your horse may have some form of intolerance in which case all you can do is change to something simpler and see if it helps.
 
Yes soulfull I'll take her off it and see what happens. I hadn't really been aware that the head movement had stopped until it started again - if you see what I mean!

JFTD I thought that oil & oil based supplements in conjunction with fibre were much easier on the digestion than cereals and therefore caused less temperament issues. Also I feed such small amounts of it that it never crossed my mind it would upset her.

It will be interesting to see that happens when I take her off it again.
 
I could NEVER feed my TB outshine, sent her loopy to the point of being dangerous!! she would become very agitated and even try and jump out the stable, she was on it for 2 weeks before we cut it out her diet! i know others who have had the same when feeding outshine. Same mare couldnt tolerate large amounts of oil neither, although saying that shes now been turned away and have started oil in her feed again, now she is out 24/7 she mightn't be so loopy! :)
 
JFTD I thought that oil & oil based supplements in conjunction with fibre were much easier on the digestion than cereals and therefore caused less temperament issues.

I'm unconvinced, though this seems to be a very fashionable belief.
 
over the years I have noticed anything can effect ANY horse, they are all so different.

so yes quite possibly, try her without again and see what happens then you will have your answer.


This ^^^

Had to take Grey Mare (IDxTB) off Speedibeat as it sent her whappy. Now she's off all sugars as they just fizz her to the extreme.
 
That's interesting cob&onion, mine is 7/8ths TB and very feed sensitive but stupidly I've never questioned the Outshine before. However looking back I've been so pleased with her over the last few months & she was actually off it during this time!

JFTD do you think I should try a liquid oil instead? If so what would you suggest as I've read adverse reports on soya oil and mine won't touch her feed if I add micronised linseed. What about vegetable oil or corn oil? I also see NAF do something called omega oil which contains hemp so omega 3,6 & 9 are supposedly more balanced. I would only need one glug a day for coat shine.

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to oil so do you have any suggestions please :)
 
As a general rule, the coat will be good if the horse is getting sufficient vitamins and minerals in their diet, so personally I would ensure accesss to a mineral lick. As far as I'm aware, excess oil will make the coat greasier rather than improve it.

However, if I were feeding oil, I would rather feed vegetable oil or sunflower oil than pure omega oils (I can't back this up but I've seen unpublished data which makes me dubious of their benefits - again I think they're fashionable rather than necessarily always beneficial). Other people on here I'm sure would disagree with using supermarket oils though... I wouldn't feed soya oils either.
 
Thanks JFTD, I have read that feeding pure soya oil is not good for horses so I wouldn't feed that.

I'll do a bit more research but in the meantime I'll remove the Outshine and see how she is. I do feed TopSpec balancer so vit/min wise she should be reasonably ok and there is a paddock lick in the field - if it hasn't been washed away :D
 
I think linseed oil is a favourite amongst many horse owners.
You can buy micronised linseed,or cook the gloop yourself or just add the oil(this option would be quite expensive though)
I have tumbled upon some interesting questions about soya,and have decided I would like to avoid the stuff,but it seems to be in ALL feeds now.
My horses are fine on hay,but I would like to feed a balancer for vits and mins.........but all seem to contain soya........mostly GM soya.:(
 
Is soya bad for dogs do you know? mine love it!! We have some left over from a horse who used to have it and the sit quietly until I give them a glug each night
 
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