Could this become reality in the UK, the banning of dogs ?

Eugh how ridiculous. If you don't like European culture then here's an idea, leave!
I live in London so I am pretty multicultural and I have nothing at all against muslims etc living in Britain/Europe but I think its totally ridiculous to change our customs and cultures to suit the religious beliefs of people who are actively CHOOSING to live in a mostly Christian country.
 
NinjaPony said:
Eugh how ridiculous. If you don't like European culture then here's an idea, leave!
I live in London so I am pretty multicultural and I have nothing at all against muslims etc living in Britain/Europe but I think its totally ridiculous to change our customs and cultures to suit the religious beliefs of people who are actively CHOOSING to live in a mostly Christian country.
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I so agree with this. I get really angry at how we seem to just back down in this country to minorities because of their religion or beliefs. If you don't like people's culture then don't live in that country. I would respect cultures of other countries if I chose to live there and I wouldn't expect them to change because of my beliefs. It's just ridiculous.

However, I do worry whether that article is for real or whether it is trying to build up more resentment against muslims?
 
We have some good friends who live in Dubai and have been there for a good few years.
They are not muslims, but happily abide by their rules. They mix in quite happily and try not to cause offense., as do we when we go there on hols.

Stupid bl**dy article - pc gone mad :(
 
Just to quote a snippet fromt he article.

"Also in Britain, police sniffer dogs trained to spot terrorists at train stations may no longer come into contact with Muslim passengers, following complaints that it was offensive to their religion."

Airports next? ..you will have to read between my unwritten lines..before anyone comes at me weilding a feed scoop..I am saying/implying nothing..its just worrying thats all.
 
Haven't read articles but what now? Dogs can 'spot terrorists'????? Clever dogs!!

Drugs and explosives detection dogs are already used in the Middle East so I don't know where that idea is coming from....
 
I've had a Google and it does seem to be legit. There are quite a few reports on line about the this.

The site itself -Gatestone Institute-also seems legit so the further reports of issues in Europe are likely to be true.

I find things like this very unsettling and slightly scary.
 
The institute appears to be a privately funded, anti-Muslim, very rightwing 'think-tank' in New York. So not exactly a balanced view.

The banning of dogs is not a reality anywhere, as far as I know, so I think the answer to this question would be no :rolleyes:

And there are plenty of people who hate dogs who are not Muslim.
 
Surely its discriminatory to refuse access to shops/taxis/buses to people with guide dogs or any other service dog?

To be honest if your religious beliefs impair your ability to do your job you should think about alternative employment rather than refuse to do the job you are paid for...
 
Strange...I have only just sold a mini bull terrier to an EXTREMELY rich Muslim family in Uk,they are all animal potty,so not all the same at all.
 
That site in itself is strange, just by posting the link on here your promoting a very strange point of view. When they analyse their website figures they will love where their links have been posted. Can't do with religious whip up sites.
 
Kaylum said:
That site in itself is strange, just by posting the link on here your promoting a very strange point of view. When they analyse their website figures they will love where their links have been posted. Can't do with religious whip up sites.
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Nor me , well said:)
 
I have a Muslim brother in law and he loves my dogs. He only hasn't got his own because my non Muslim sister does not like dogs. Web sites like this entice racism and I am sure most rational Muslims don't care if there are dogs around as long as they are under control and have responsible owners and I think all of us, Muslim or not would like to see that. :)
 
I must say I hadn't realised that website was of dubious origin. I stand by my original statement, but obviously anything that stirs up islamophobia should be discouraged. It's the people not the religion anyway. I dislike people trying to change Britain but that doesn't mean everyone in that religion feels the same way.
 
Hmmm, well as I live in The Hague and got my dog about 2 weeks after this article came out I can confirm that it is total poppycock!

This does seem to be a very far right inflammatory article, especially considering they have quoted the PVV (Geert Wilders is the leader of that... the guy who was nearly refused entry into the UK for his hate speech... unfortunately I live in his district, can't stand the man). There is a very large muslim community in The Hague but in 5 years of living in the city I have not experienced or seen a single action or behaviour that would support this article. I've also had no issue on public transport and Freya frequently comes on the trams and buses with me into the town center. The bars, cafes and shops are all very dog friendly as well.

These far right websites/papers/parties just like to try and stir up something from maybe a comment a single individual has said. Best to just ignore it really, this link here was the first I have heard of any anti-dog sentiment in the city.
 
Dobiegirl said:
I copied the link from Petforums Community forum not the BNP:rolleyes:, I thought it would spark honest debate not the shooting of the messenger:eek::D
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Indeed, it's a link:confused: are we not allowed to link anything now:confused:, even if some believe it t be tripe, I thought advertising was banned but not random links.
 
Dobiegirl said:
I copied the link from Petforums Community forum not the BNP:rolleyes:, I thought it would spark honest debate not the shooting of the messenger:eek::D
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Unfortunately there is a lot of deep rooted feelings out there that can be raised to the surface with such nonsense as that article. I work with young children and was actually asked today by a very young Muslim child if I thought it was her fault that the soldier had been killed as she had heard on the news that Muslims were to blame so did that mean her.:( It made me want to cry that such a young child could possibly feel like that. This article and ones like it just entice ignorant people to believe ridiculous things and not get to know the truth from the people concerned first hand.
 
But what debate? Anyone with two braincells to rub together will know that it is highly, highly unlikely that the UK is about to ban dogs for this reason. It's just not going to happen - not now, not tomorrow. We're on the verge of perhaps legalising gay marriage, and that would be going against the official state religion - does anyone really think that another religion would have that much sway? Not. Going. To. Happen.

The debate, if debate there is, is why anyone would write such a biased and ill-informed, scaremongering article in the first place, taking the views of a few extremists and trying to apply them to the mainstream. To my mind the answer is very simple - to ****-stir.

A few moments of critical thought would surely be enough to tell any reasonably intelligent person that?!
 
Crugeran Celt said:
Unfortunately there is a lot of deep rooted feelings out there that can be raised to the surface with such nonsense as that article. I work with young children and was actually asked today by a very young Muslim child if I thought it was her fault that the soldier had been killed as she had heard on the news that Muslims were to blame so did that mean her.:( It made me want to cry that such a young child could possibly feel like that. This article and ones like it just entice ignorant people to believe ridiculous things and not get to know the truth from the people concerned first hand.
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By posting on this site and not some random fb site I had hoped we were more enlightened and not given to rascists views. You could argue by ignoring sites like this you are allowing the racists in our society to win. My family is very multi-cultural and some have been the victims of rascial slurs so I can empathise with anyone going through this. You only have to look back at history to see what ignoring these issues cause, the rise of the brown shirts (fascists) and indeed Hitler.
 
Spudlet said:
But what debate? Anyone with two braincells to rub together will know that it is highly, highly unlikely that the UK is about to ban dogs for this reason. It's just not going to happen - not now, not tomorrow. We're on the verge of perhaps legalising gay marriage, and that would be going against the official state religion - does anyone really think that another religion would have that much sway? Not. Going. To. Happen.

The debate, if debate there is, is why anyone would write such a biased and ill-informed, scaremongering article in the first place, taking the views of a few extremists and trying to apply them to the mainstream. To my mind the answer is very simple - to ****-stir.

A few moments of critical thought would surely be enough to tell any reasonably intelligent person that?!
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Do you think question time applies the same criteria as you, of course they dont, they explore every question however unpalatable.

With the DDA act failing big time its not just a small section of our society who are anti-dog, being a lot older than you I have seen a change in society against dogs. Blame it on the media whoever but there is a shift in feelings towards dogs, latching this on to the back of the article and you could then see how change could come about.

I dont see it happening in my lifetime and it would be a very sad day but there could well be restrictions on the ownership of dogs and where they are allowed to be.
 
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