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well personally i used to be engaged to a vet and the only time i have ever seen anything like this is due to legs through fences and injury due to broken fencing even xc fencing.
I dont personally think that a person could have done this not in a field anyway horse would of run like hell,and probably knocked ten bags of you know what out of anyone attempting to corner it.
If you had sturdy wodden post and rail its can be possible for them to get a leg through and struggle and manage to break free without causing any real damage to the fence.Although this looks like an injury inflicted by something sharp not blunt.
 
Post and Rails did the same thing to a mare we owned many moons ago...

she had 4 totally smooth, diagonal "lacerations"..

looked like she'd been attacked with an axe.....

but she wasnt.....

i dont believe anyone would get 2 cracks at your horse though....
 
well that man sounds like a nutter although i do find it hard to beleive that a horse would stand and have that done to them no matter how good they are or trusting,and i really do think if that had of happened to him he would not be letting anyone near his legs again.

i hope he recovers soon though and all goes well for him.
 
Well, the mare I just lost 2 weeks ago, was stabbed as a youngster, back in the early/mid 90s and was left with a permanent scar. This was on her hind quarters. It was a matter of how the previous owner's vet dealt with it more than anything as she developed a sarcoid from it, but it would have been flesh coloured otherwise.

I am not too sure what caused these wounds, but think they could be as equally from a wire fence which has several parallel strands as they could from a knife attack. I cannot imagine a person being able to get near a horse with a knife a second and third time. Also I'm not sure how likely attackers would be to go for the hind legs. I would still report it, though, just in case.
 
OMG, shootings!? You poor, poor thing and poor horse
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I would be VERY surprised if that was a result of an attack, much more likely he has caught himself on something.

Hope he makes a swift and full recovery.
 
Sliver_Florin,
I am shocked and horrified at this lunatic that you have to live beside and the inactions of the police.
Shocked. Absolutely shocked.

The gunshot wounds are no way accidental. The cuts on the leg would be difficult to prove as deliberate, but gunshot wounds are a different matter.
Definately don't let it drop.
Keep on at the police, let the RSPCA know too.
As has been suggested, the papers might be interested, but then again, that might just stir up a nasty hornets nest.

I hope you manage to get it sorted.
 
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Sorry just been reading your further information regarding this man, is there anyway you can move your horses asap? even to a livery for a while.
Its disgraceful that the police cant do anything further (but then again it may be frustrating for them too, they may also want this man out of harms way, but they are limited to what they can do...rights and the law an all).

Also why should you be bullied into removing your horses of the land by his sickening acts, either way, I'd just give in and move them as soon as possible, cant you contact a local horse rescue centre, local farmer or a livery yard where you can possibly move them to and keep them there for a wee while while you find somewhere else...surely someone must be able to help you, what if he strikes again?

You have got to move them, proof or no proof with or without the police involved.

Hope you sort something out, its terrible
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We are a horse charity. The horses have been moved back to the land we normally rent - all 21 of them.
They only went into that field for 1 week. I would never knowingly leave any animal in danger.
Someone harming him was my last thought but i have been proved wrong unfortunately.
 
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I sincerely hope that the wounds aren't the result of an attack, but i wish you all the best in persuing it with the police/RSCPA. I hope keiro makes a quick and uncomplicated recovery.

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Thankyou.
 
Gun pellets are a whole other issue. Have you found any? If so I would collect them up for a start and take pics of any pellet wounds.

I do think there are some nasty pieces of work out there who find it 'entertaining' taking pot shots at horses/cows/sheep etc knowng it is unlikely they will be caught as generally no serious damaged is caused and pellets are hide to find in a big grass field.

Anyone with a gun is a danger and someone willing to randomly shoot horses or livestock is just as likely to take pots shots at domestic pets, children and god knows who else. If you have proof this person is/has been shooting at your or anyone's animals report it and keep hassling the police to see what they have done! You say he has a history of it so the police should pull their fingers out and get it sorted.
 
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That's awful but don't beat yourself up. You obviously always do your best for your horses and you couldn't have forseen this.
It makes me sick how the police are scared of certain people... there's a farmer near us who is the same, a big nutter of a bloke who's been in prison for GBH. He terrorises and bullies all his neighbours and his cattle are always getting out onto a busy main road. He lives right on the border of 2 counties and the cowardly police from each side just bat him back and to as they are too gutless to deal with him properly. They are supposed to be there to protect us and our property from these type of people but it's easier to sit in lay-bys issuing speeding tickets isn't it?!!
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I hope your horse makes a recovery, but don't blame yourself.

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It's nice to hear from someone who understands regards the man/police. Its unbelievable isn't it.
I do always blame myself as they don't ask to live with me and i have to ensure their health and safety. I am normaly good at tracking down where injuries happen - luckily we only have the most minor but on this occasion i am stumped which is why i am listening to people who he has said he is going to do it to. There isn't as much as a Kiero hair on the fencing.
 
My horse had something similar - had his leg caught in a wire fence! It took approx 9 months to heal - that is 9 months before he was able to go out 24/7. He had also chipped the bone, we had a time where it became infected (that is when they found the bone was chipped). You could see the bone initally, he lost the tendons at the front of the hind leg/on box rest for months (part of that tied up to prevent him lying down). But to answer your questions, it did heal, he was never horribly lame on it, his box rest started to include walking for 5 mins/10mins etc and then riding him. It was a long slog, but my boy was a star with the box rest - the vet visited twice a week sometimes to dress the wound, I had to inject antibiotics etc. We used some cream Vulcan (or something like that) for proud flesh, it wasn't registered in this country but vet at the time was from Belgium and it worked well!
 
Although the temptation is to think human I doubt any horse would stand still for the second and third cuts.
it looks more like a plain wire cut to me, when loose wire wraps right round the leg and the horse then pulls free causing the knife like cuts.
We have also seen similar ones from electric tape fencing when the tape acts like a steel wire.
It's going to take a long time to heal, any chance of getting the horse to a spa?
they are the type of injuries that respond very well to spa therapy.
If not we have mended much worse than those at home by using honey and cod liver oil tulle dressings, leaving them on 36 hours each time and of course giving a full course of antibiotics too. They work very well on woulds like these and our mare healed with hardly any scar visible, the vet wanted to do a skin graft they were so bad when first done.
I would be alarming my gate with a hidden rape alarm anyway in your case, just to warn any nasty people off..
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well personally i used to be engaged to a vet and the only time i have ever seen anything like this is due to legs through fences and injury due to broken fencing even xc fencing.
I dont personally think that a person could have done this not in a field anyway horse would of run like hell,and probably knocked ten bags of you know what out of anyone attempting to corner it.
If you had sturdy wodden post and rail its can be possible for them to get a leg through and struggle and manage to break free without causing any real damage to the fence.Although this looks like an injury inflicted by something sharp not blunt.

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My first thought was fenceing - still not ruleing it out. Its just that they have been shot and he has told people - who are going to be witnesses he was going to do it.
I have been along every inch of fence and not found a hair, drop of blood nothing. I am not ruleing anything out until proven.
 
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Post and Rails did the same thing to a mare we owned many moons ago...

she had 4 totally smooth, diagonal "lacerations"..

looked like she'd been attacked with an axe.....

but she wasnt.....

i dont believe anyone would get 2 cracks at your horse though....

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That is why i have been looking at the fenceing. I did not think of foul play at all. Its the shootings that have made me believe what people have said as we have proof of that. I did not know they were being shot. I wondered what all the small injuries were.
 
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Sliver_Florin,
I am shocked and horrified at this lunatic that you have to live beside and the inactions of the police.
Shocked. Absolutely shocked.

The gunshot wounds are no way accidental. The cuts on the leg would be difficult to prove as deliberate, but gunshot wounds are a different matter.
Definately don't let it drop.
Keep on at the police, let the RSPCA know too.
As has been suggested, the papers might be interested, but then again, that might just stir up a nasty hornets nest.

I hope you manage to get it sorted.

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We are going more on the shootings as we have proof and i have got some pellets out of the grass where they have hit the stable. We have witnesses who the man has told was going to do this attack but we have no proof and it could be coincidence although i have not found where he injured himself.
I won't go to the papers as i don't want copy cat attacks. We know who it is so i think its a bit different to other attacks.
We would not have known about the shootings if a witness had not told me. The man used to shoot at him and his daughter. His Arab horse had to have pellets removed. I just thought they were small wounds but couldn't work out how they were getting them.
 
when my mare did hers, we had a posse out looking at every inch of fence...nothing....

wasn't until the 5th day when a splinter of post/rail popped out the wound did we then realise what had happened.

we took her to the seaside for weekly paddles..it worked a treat hardly any scarring
 
This man sounds like a dangerous one when horses are concerned. I hate to think how someone could do that to a horse, There has been a bit of this going around the country and last year there were reported attacks on horses. Could the ILPH or the council do something to get him moved if he has done this before. In my eyes it is a police matter but they are useless when it comes to horses and their wellbeing. I really hope your horse gets better soon and i am sorry you have to experience something so horrible. I would try the police again because all the time he is there the horses are at riskx
 
So sorry to hear that you have a neighbour capable of instilling so much fear concerning the safety of your horses
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Hope the horse makes a swift recovery. It's difficult to tell from photo's but we had a cow with similiar injuries caused by a stand of electric fencing (the string type) wrapping around her leg. Any unbreakable material could cause the same type of wound, baler twine etc and may not at first be the obvious "weapon".


These photo's were taken soon after the cow was hurt, a week later the wounds had opened out like the ones in your photo's.


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when my mare did hers, we had a posse out looking at every inch of fence...nothing....

wasn't until the 5th day when a splinter of post/rail popped out the wound did we then realise what had happened.

we took her to the seaside for weekly paddles..it worked a treat hardly any scarring

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The seaside idea is a good one thankyou. There is a nice quiet beach we take the horses to.
It has been good to get other opinions as it is easy to focus on one.
Thankyou all
 
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Talk to your friends from Appleby, I am sure they would be happy to explain to this man that he is in the wrong.

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Our neighbours are travellers. It was mentioned in conversation when we were helping with a dog as they always ask how the horses are. Their reaction wouldn't be good for the man if you know what i mean. I asked them not to visit as the police are now investigateing. Although in one way i would like him to be visited as a reaction to what has happened but in another i know its wrong and i don't want to start anything.
 
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