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wm I agree, I thought that was so many could now be not tested on animals as all of their constituent parts have been for years.
Countryside Alliance official statement on Lush - FYI
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NeedNewHorse
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Yes. It's called a cut off date - The beauty industry is a billion pound industry and thus 'new' products are coming out all time - this is what I mean. Sure a company can say it doesn't test, but of course because of years ago, an ingredient would of been tested somewhere along the line, hence the cut off date to help companies now but all other companies are still testing ingredients/products now.
Anyway, this I feel has gone off topic. I don't think I am getting anywhere either which is annoying but never the less you can only try!
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Anyway, this I feel has gone off topic. I don't think I am getting anywhere either which is annoying but never the less you can only try!
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MrWoof
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Cosmetics firm Lush will pay for its politics by alienating thousands of customers with its decision to fund the Hunt Saboteurs Association (HSA) with proceeds from a fox bubble bar product.
The Hunt Saboteurs Association is an animal rights group which advocates direct action and illegal methods to disrupt hunting activities.
Countryside Alliance Head of Media, Tim Bonner said:
We are aware that Lush supports animal rights charities, and I am sure they are upset that the Hunting Act has failed. Whilst we support the view that everyone has their right to an opinion, there are groups who legally oppose hunting, and the HSA is not one of them.
This is also a very strange commercial decision. Hundreds of thousands of people have demonstrated their support for hunting and the rural way of life and many of them would previously have been Lush customers. On the other hand the number of people supporting an organisation like the HSA is tiny and, lets be honest, hunt sabs are not the biggest consumers of soap. It is entirely up to Lush who they want to support but they will pay for their politics by alienating thousands of reasonable customers.
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Hear, hear. Very well said with just the right amount of sarcasm. I have emailed Lush three times asking what the other Board Members and, more importantly, their Shareholders, thought of this commercially suicidial marketing. I just receive the usual blurb in reply. Lush are not going to take any notice whatsoever of our emails or 'phone calls. The only thing to do is target their retail outlets - there seem to be a fair number of pro-hunting girlies in Truro!!
Cosmetics firm Lush will pay for its politics by alienating thousands of customers with its decision to fund the Hunt Saboteurs Association (HSA) with proceeds from a fox bubble bar product.
The Hunt Saboteurs Association is an animal rights group which advocates direct action and illegal methods to disrupt hunting activities.
Countryside Alliance Head of Media, Tim Bonner said:
We are aware that Lush supports animal rights charities, and I am sure they are upset that the Hunting Act has failed. Whilst we support the view that everyone has their right to an opinion, there are groups who legally oppose hunting, and the HSA is not one of them.
This is also a very strange commercial decision. Hundreds of thousands of people have demonstrated their support for hunting and the rural way of life and many of them would previously have been Lush customers. On the other hand the number of people supporting an organisation like the HSA is tiny and, lets be honest, hunt sabs are not the biggest consumers of soap. It is entirely up to Lush who they want to support but they will pay for their politics by alienating thousands of reasonable customers.
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Hear, hear. Very well said with just the right amount of sarcasm. I have emailed Lush three times asking what the other Board Members and, more importantly, their Shareholders, thought of this commercially suicidial marketing. I just receive the usual blurb in reply. Lush are not going to take any notice whatsoever of our emails or 'phone calls. The only thing to do is target their retail outlets - there seem to be a fair number of pro-hunting girlies in Truro!!
skewbald_again
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This is like saying the National Front or BNP are just nice people with a dim view on Europe!
No, that would be from one edge of the Conservative Party to UKIP - and among them, yes, maybe a few oddballs. So that would equate in this case to say Wildlife Charities to League Against Cruel Sports. The Hunt Sabs (the clue is in the title here 'saboteurs' ) are the BNP of the analogy.
Why should any right minded person buy stuff off a company supporting/supported by a bunch of thugs?
ETA: However, can I suggest we now starve them of the oxygen of publicity?
This is like saying the National Front or BNP are just nice people with a dim view on Europe!
No, that would be from one edge of the Conservative Party to UKIP - and among them, yes, maybe a few oddballs. So that would equate in this case to say Wildlife Charities to League Against Cruel Sports. The Hunt Sabs (the clue is in the title here 'saboteurs' ) are the BNP of the analogy.
Why should any right minded person buy stuff off a company supporting/supported by a bunch of thugs?
ETA: However, can I suggest we now starve them of the oxygen of publicity?
Maesfen
Extremely Old Nag!
Until this campaign, I thought a lush was a drunken tart; think I prefer that idea to a smelly shop with dubious ethics...... which I'd never bother to support in the first place so no change there then!
Echo Bravo
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Agree that with the EU most cosmetic have to tested on animals. I use to buy Beauty with out Cruelty but for some reason Holland and Barrett stopped stocking it and since then I don't wear makeup. and they are getting an awfull lot of advertising on the Forum as had never heard of them till now and the Horse and Hound magazine use to years ago do a lot about hunting, now it's about flipping showjumping and YUK!!! Dressage!!! whats happened for us happy hackers. Nothing!
Lizzie66
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I've just located an article in todays Shropshire Star, which is about the the Lush marketing campaign.
It is misleading, as at no point does it mention the funding going to HSA. However there is one positive in that apparently their staff are planning to talk to the customers about the issue, so maybe a visit to Lush this week could provide an outlet for reasoned debate ! Equally is their banner defamatory - do they have proof that the hunts are still "at it" ?
The article is under the heading "Shop shows support for hunting ban".
"Staff at a Telford town centre store will be donning ears and tails tomorrow to call for a ban on fox hunting to be enforced.
Lush Cosmetics is launching a campaign at branches across the country, including Telford.
Bosses claim that since the ban on fox hunting was put in place hunts have continued unchallenged by police or authorities.
As part of the campaign the front of the shop will have a big banner in the window reading 'The Hunts Are Still At It'.
Customers will be encouraged to sign postcards to their Chief Constable calling on police to make enforcement of the Hunting Act a priority.
Staff will wear homemade fox ears and tails and will talk to shoppers about the issue. Hilary Jones, Lush director of ethics, said people felt a 'terrible feeling of betrayal' when it was seen the law was not being enforced."
It is misleading, as at no point does it mention the funding going to HSA. However there is one positive in that apparently their staff are planning to talk to the customers about the issue, so maybe a visit to Lush this week could provide an outlet for reasoned debate ! Equally is their banner defamatory - do they have proof that the hunts are still "at it" ?
The article is under the heading "Shop shows support for hunting ban".
"Staff at a Telford town centre store will be donning ears and tails tomorrow to call for a ban on fox hunting to be enforced.
Lush Cosmetics is launching a campaign at branches across the country, including Telford.
Bosses claim that since the ban on fox hunting was put in place hunts have continued unchallenged by police or authorities.
As part of the campaign the front of the shop will have a big banner in the window reading 'The Hunts Are Still At It'.
Customers will be encouraged to sign postcards to their Chief Constable calling on police to make enforcement of the Hunting Act a priority.
Staff will wear homemade fox ears and tails and will talk to shoppers about the issue. Hilary Jones, Lush director of ethics, said people felt a 'terrible feeling of betrayal' when it was seen the law was not being enforced."