crazy crazy driver!! What will the police do??

rhino said:
:D My family are motorsport mad, I'm sure I'm a 'foundling' who really belongs to a nice horsey family! Tend to do more of the lotus days with my brother but the hot marques days at Knockhill are brilliant; I've been karting there since I was very little :D

They also have a good BHS XC course!
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god my family are dull :mad: You have all the fun! :cool: :D
 
Ceris Comet said:
You are obviously involved with the other forum .
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I'm not involved with the other forum, no. I am aware of it, and believe my brother is/was a member. I even own a PH tshirt I won at Autosport International last year :D though don't believe that makes my view biased.

I wasn't aware I was showing particular bias, although didn't agree that by reading one thread PH could be accused of being a 'chavvy little forum'. It's not so different from here IMO. They just prefer a different sort of horsepower!
 
Ceris Comet, aren't you also the person who called the PH forum "chavvy" before?

That's exactly the sort of snobby attitude which makes others think horsey people are stuck-up and unpleasant. It does nothing for good relations with other road users. :rolleyes:
 
I am on both forums as well as many other driving related ones and I can assure everyone that the majority of members on both PH and HHO are reasonable and sensible but there will always be the odd ones who spout rubbish and have a blinkered view (no pun intended) and its usually those which stick in the minds of others
 
marydoll said:
From the information given, it appears there were other mounted witnesses and also another independant witness, the op stated AROUND 100 mph, to me that means to bloomin fast for this type of road, she was hardly sitting there with a speed gun :rolleyes: and any car can spin there wheels making noise and smoke, again if youre on horseback and frightened, 10 seconds can seem like a minute.
For me the fact that the arrogent ass chose to do it, even for a short spell, knowing he could frighten the horses, personally I hope of he appeals and if he loses, they up his fine and give him community service mucking out horses somewhere
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The speeding element would be very hard to prove, hence I'm sure that this should not have been a major (if any) factor in the magistrates' deliberations. I am a magistrate and we are told to view witness estimates of speed very skeptically without some kind of forensic corroboration as almost all witnesses overestimate speed considerably. However, iit appears from some posts that he was not charged with any motoring offence anyway.

However, the wheel spinning and smoke production would be extremely easy to prove as such actions invariably leave trails of rubber on the road if carried on for even a few seconds, never mind 10 seconds or a minute. We get the local Essex cowboys doing this in supermarket car parks all the time after they shut. Presumably this was what convicted him? The Police should also have examined his tyres, as these would show pitting and abrasions for some weeks afterwards. I presume they did this?

In view of this, he was mad to plead not guilty. Such actions carried out near horses are very dangerous.
 
lucky-lady said:
clearly I'm not that up on TVR's. a quick google tells me 8.3 seconds or thereabouts.

Pile of rubbish if you ask me, what's so quick about that? my family bus goes quicker than that.
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I used to own a TVR S2 during my mid life crisis 20 years ago but I got too old for it and traded it in for my beloved Jag. Very loud, but not actually very fast with awful brakes. 0-60 is 7.3s. It would take at least 800m to get to 100mph (assuming it didn't fall to bits) and forever to stop again unless the brakes had been updated.

Unless it was a very long straight road with no bends at all, 100mph seems, shall we say, unlikely to me on a narrow country road unless he had a suicide wish.
 
Not really, I joined a car forum last year and started talking about horses, on one of these horse v car type topics... :confused:
 
mulledwhine said:
I don't think it is too early to be doing a little light hacking with your youngster, bit I am prepared to be corrected.
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Totally agree with that statement. Alot of people walk their youngsters out in hand for months/years before hacking out anyway, me included. Anyway, I digress, what an a*** well done for getting the reg and reporting him. What is wrong with some people :mad:
 
Kathyt1 said:
We live in hope.
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No. No, we don't.
I don't wish anyone dead, no matter how foolishly he behaved in putting others at risk.
Such sentiments just make you look small-minded and unpleasant.

I've read the threads on PH and on here, and most posters want the same thing - safety and consideration for everyone that uses the roads so that they return home to their families in one piece.

S :D
 
See what I've found !
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=13&t=1133693&mid=204631&nmt=Both+TVRs+egged!

It seems that someone has "egged" both of the TVRs, and King Fisher is pointing the blame at local horse riders !

The thread was started on Thursday, and there's a link to THIS thread here (HHO) on the 8th page.
There are lots of anti-horse posts in the above pistonheads thread.

Oh, and King Fisher, the offending driver's dad, is an Astrophysicist, hence my previous comment regarding physics. Tired, in their first post mentioned physics (in a way that seems they are knowledgeable in the subject). KF makes a point on pistonheads of regularly pointing out that he is a physicist ;)
 
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Like this forum, there are idiots and there are sensible folk. Those who think they have the right to lord it over everyone else, no matter what their form of transport, and those who just want to co-exist in peace. Won't happen though, such is life."
 
That ph thread is quite funny. :D

Starts with the idiot lad's idiotic dad raging about unseen horsey folk egging his cars :rolleyes:, followed by sympathic horse-haters. Then in come the "other side" pointing out the nonsense of the OP's allegations..... at wihich point it all deteriorates into pages and pages of bad puns about eggs. :D:D
 
DragonSlayer said:
Like this forum, there are idiots and there are sensible folk. Those who think they have the right to lord it over everyone else, no matter what their form of transport, and those who just want to co-exist in peace. Won't happen though, such is life."
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Couldn't agree more.

I was out in the TVR yesterday and came upon a group of three riders on a narrow road near Pickering. I slowed down from a long way back and passed them at tickover in third. Thank you received from all three riders, everyone happy. How hard is this to do? This simple courtesy cost us all nothing.
 
I LOVE threads like this.... You can't hid from the HHO CSI crew!!!

Fair point about not being able to accurately tell the speed of a passing car...I had taken the comment as being a little emotive but thought it probably felt like that...

Now can we broaden this into my dislike of road cyclists who have no consideration for riders, walkers OR drivers... Yet can meet off roaders, even those in a race and they are always careful!
 
I've read some of that Pistonheads thread and I am genuinely scared :O
Why can't we just get along?
Though, I do love how they think we can train our horses to do their business in fields? Haha. I would like to see them try!!
 
In one of the places I kept my horse, we had to ride on a B road (and sometimes an A road) to get to any bridleways or off-road riding at all.
I found car drivers to be generally careful and considerate, and truck, bike and tractor drivers even more so. :D
We always tried to cause the minimum of delay (ducking into gateways to let traffic past where possible, or trotting) and to direct cars past where we could see it to be clear (although legally we are not supposed to do that).
I found most car drivers waved and smiled in response to our thanking them, and in fact over time we got to 'know' them.
There's no reason why we can't all get along - it's just a shame the driver in question doesn't seem to be learning from his brush with a potential RTA. :(
Most of the Pistonheads folk seem to be sensible and considerate - thanks if you are reading.
S :D
 
As those of you who have read the PH threads will have seen there was general support there for your OP's position, certainly far moreso than there was for the Fishers. I have been a PHer for many years and was a TVR owning resident of North Yorkshire for many also. Most performance car drivers are very cognisant of other road users and, especially in rural areas, four legged ones. I saw enough cows and sheep on the roads in Wensleydale to always be mindful of the possibility of an encounter with large animals! I always treated riders with respect and never had a cross word. I hope that the actions of one idiot have not left an adverse impression.
 
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