YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Just to add to the controvesy, our farrier maintains that hydrogen peroxide is the equivalent of smoke and mirrors
Crumbling sole and a smelly foot... help!
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hadfos
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no dont use peroxide as it will kill the good part or the foot as well . its ok used once but as i have put try iodine not peroxide.
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Being new is great on here
...however coming on with a comment like above,when people have used the stuff for yrs,had good results,never a days lameness,makes you sound like only what you do is right
Never say Do not...as different things work for different horses
These comments have nothing to do with ganging up on you at all,and i hope it dosnt put you off posting,but tbh,it is a huge site and everyone has an opinion,the idea is to offer yours,suggest but dont say dont or do
,peeps will read and come to their own conclusion!
no dont use peroxide as it will kill the good part or the foot as well . its ok used once but as i have put try iodine not peroxide.
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Being new is great on here
Never say Do not...as different things work for different horses
These comments have nothing to do with ganging up on you at all,and i hope it dosnt put you off posting,but tbh,it is a huge site and everyone has an opinion,the idea is to offer yours,suggest but dont say dont or do
hadfos
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Just to add to the controvesy, our farrier maintains that hydrogen peroxide is the equivalent of smoke and mirrors
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Always 1,lol
Just to add to the controvesy, our farrier maintains that hydrogen peroxide is the equivalent of smoke and mirrors
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Always 1,lol
PapaFrita
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being new is so hard and so nasty....
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It's got nothing to do with you being new. It's got everything to do with people having different experiences from yours and disagreeing. It does happen, you know
being new is so hard and so nasty....
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It's got nothing to do with you being new. It's got everything to do with people having different experiences from yours and disagreeing. It does happen, you know
PapaFrita
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Just to add to the controvesy, our farrier maintains that hydrogen peroxide is the equivalent of smoke and mirrors
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Does that mean that he doesn't think it works or that it masks the problem? Genuine question. I'm just a bit thick
Just to add to the controvesy, our farrier maintains that hydrogen peroxide is the equivalent of smoke and mirrors
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Does that mean that he doesn't think it works or that it masks the problem? Genuine question. I'm just a bit thick
wildwoman666
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yes and i said no to peroxide as by sounds of it its only mild . no ppl being nasty to me does not put me off as i can handle it . what has been used years ago is not always best way new times new things happen so i go with the now not the yeasterday. never said what i do is right its what a vet and farrie told me what was best then has been outdated.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
He thinks that people think it is effective because it froths and looks impressive. We actually use teatree oil for such things, including fly strike on the poor old sheep!
PapaFrita
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Oh I see. Well, I still love the stuff
I have heard great things about tea tree oil
Shame it doesn't froth
wildwoman666
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Oz Oil Fresh Frog is good to also has teatree oil in it.
somethingorother
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If you didn't want to risk the peroxide...( which i have never used but am now unsure about) then you can clear thrush up with hibiscrub and a disinfectant spray eg purple spray or iodine once a day. Will take a few days to 14 days (very severe) from what i have found.
The horse(s) i've treated with it were at a rather shabby riding school where no one else bothered about smelly feet. Unfortunately i had a lot of experience as the beds were not mucked out well and whenever i managed to clear it up over the weekend, it recurred as soon as i wasn't there to make sure they were kept clean/dry. In one instance after i'd been away a while the frogs had completely disintegrated/fallen off one horse who was on box rest. I've never smelt anything so bad in my life, the sight ans smell knocked me sick.
Hibiscrub and a dandy brush and purple spray cleared this up. It took a while due to the severity, but it's never failed me.
Since OP doesn't know for sure what it is, i would suggest a milder treatment such as hibiscrub... better safe than sorry IMO...
ETS before i get shot down, i was not employed by the place, i went in my own free time to improve the lives of the horses there as best as 1 person can. It regularly passed inspections, somehow.
The horse(s) i've treated with it were at a rather shabby riding school where no one else bothered about smelly feet. Unfortunately i had a lot of experience as the beds were not mucked out well and whenever i managed to clear it up over the weekend, it recurred as soon as i wasn't there to make sure they were kept clean/dry. In one instance after i'd been away a while the frogs had completely disintegrated/fallen off one horse who was on box rest. I've never smelt anything so bad in my life, the sight ans smell knocked me sick.
Hibiscrub and a dandy brush and purple spray cleared this up. It took a while due to the severity, but it's never failed me.
Since OP doesn't know for sure what it is, i would suggest a milder treatment such as hibiscrub... better safe than sorry IMO...
ETS before i get shot down, i was not employed by the place, i went in my own free time to improve the lives of the horses there as best as 1 person can. It regularly passed inspections, somehow.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Yes if it frothed it would be perfect
hadfos
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Exactly
,but from personal experience peroxide works,and it is as strong as you use it!!i know what i do with it and it works
,still does and never had a prob!Use it with knowledge and it is fantastic stuff,market is now swamped with potions that cost pounds and pounds and takes wks to clear the infection!Yes things get outdated,but i do peroxide,then go with the hibi
,actually horses feet have been very good for a long time now i need nothing
But there is no wonder horse owners get confused and dont know which way to turn!
Honestly we are not nasty
,and welcome
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Honestly we are not nasty
PapaFrita
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LMAO
wildwoman666
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like you said what works for one wont always work for others . in my experience with peroxide it took ages to even come close to working , been as he had it go up the heel hair line. when i was told and showen by vet . it was clear with in weeks . thankx for the welcome lol
hadfos
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like you said what works for one wont always work for others . in my experience with peroxide it took ages to even come close to working , been as he had it go up the heel hair line. when i was told and showen by vet . it was clear with in weeks . thankx for the welcome lol
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Never had that problem
You are welcome...you will have hours of happy posting,probably to the degree you get shouted at at home,lmao...tis very addictive
like you said what works for one wont always work for others . in my experience with peroxide it took ages to even come close to working , been as he had it go up the heel hair line. when i was told and showen by vet . it was clear with in weeks . thankx for the welcome lol
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Never had that problem
You are welcome...you will have hours of happy posting,probably to the degree you get shouted at at home,lmao...tis very addictive
Brandysnap
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Hi Clipcloppop (great name!!)
I'd get a good farrier in ASAP (a good farrier always turns up, provided we treat them fairly, of course). But then, good farriers are busy, so it may be difficult to get one for a problem case with a new client.
It does sound like thrush, but bearing in mind the previous owner's lack of attention to farrier-things, coupled with your current farrier's non-turning-up, it could become more serious if you don't get a professional to look at your horse soon.
If you can't get a decent farrier to look at him in the next few days, i'd get your equine vet involved. While we all want to help on the forum, it remains impossible to diagnose and treat. Please get a decent farrier, and quick. All bests BS x
I'd get a good farrier in ASAP (a good farrier always turns up, provided we treat them fairly, of course). But then, good farriers are busy, so it may be difficult to get one for a problem case with a new client.
It does sound like thrush, but bearing in mind the previous owner's lack of attention to farrier-things, coupled with your current farrier's non-turning-up, it could become more serious if you don't get a professional to look at your horse soon.
If you can't get a decent farrier to look at him in the next few days, i'd get your equine vet involved. While we all want to help on the forum, it remains impossible to diagnose and treat. Please get a decent farrier, and quick. All bests BS x
Nailed
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BS its not thats serious, it just needs a bit of disinfectant on it and it will clear up.
Wildwoman, noone was picking on you, but throwing your weight around is not the way to proceed, Offering your oppinion, and the link, fair enough..
Lou x
Wildwoman, noone was picking on you, but throwing your weight around is not the way to proceed, Offering your oppinion, and the link, fair enough..
Lou x
Ellies_mum2
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As a first time owner I've read this thread with interest. Sounds like some good advice (to me
) has been given. If it was me I would go by the majority verdict and if that didn't work then try something else including getting my farrier out to have a look see
Tinypony
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One of mine has rather flat feet, but his soles are nice and thick and he manages fine. His soles are crumbly at the moment, and it is natural abrasion. This varies at different times of the year and in different weather, but isn't anything to worry about. Oh, he's barefoot by the way, has been for about 4 years and works on all terrain like that.
I had a horse with long-term thrush, and was treating him by scrubbing with Hibiscrub, then using diluted Hydrogen Peroxide, 1 tenth dilution in water. This was under supervision of my good farrier. We couldn't quite crack it though, and when my vet visited he said to knock the Hydrogen Peroxide on the head as it necrotises the tissue. In that case, the vet took a sample of the infection, and mixed up a specific disinfectant that I syringed down the cracks and side of the frog. That cleared his feet up nicely within a couple of weeks.
So now, I avoid Hydrogen Peroxide simply because there is so much disagreement about whether or not to use it, and with so many other effective options why bother? Normally a touch of thrush isn't too difficult to deal with, and I use either Fresh Frog, which seems to sort it very quickly, or tea tree oil, just a little dripped into the fissures.
Hope that's some help.
I had a horse with long-term thrush, and was treating him by scrubbing with Hibiscrub, then using diluted Hydrogen Peroxide, 1 tenth dilution in water. This was under supervision of my good farrier. We couldn't quite crack it though, and when my vet visited he said to knock the Hydrogen Peroxide on the head as it necrotises the tissue. In that case, the vet took a sample of the infection, and mixed up a specific disinfectant that I syringed down the cracks and side of the frog. That cleared his feet up nicely within a couple of weeks.
So now, I avoid Hydrogen Peroxide simply because there is so much disagreement about whether or not to use it, and with so many other effective options why bother? Normally a touch of thrush isn't too difficult to deal with, and I use either Fresh Frog, which seems to sort it very quickly, or tea tree oil, just a little dripped into the fissures.
Hope that's some help.
kellyeaton
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to get rid of the smell i would use idion solution and tea tree to clean that up and to stop the crumbling and harden the hoofs up i would use eucolyptus oil all over hoof and sole and i would be feedind biotion and seaweed to hep them gow stronger aswell!
Naggy
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OP it does just sound like a simple case of exfoliating soles as others have said. Basically if your horse perhaps hasn't been over some varied terrain then there is no abrasion to take off the exfoliation. For example, one of mine at the moment has great big chunks of sole coming off because she is off work at the moment and only goes from a flat dry field into her stable and back again and, therefore, doesn't get access to something like stones or sand which would exfoliate any dead tissue. It is not something I worry about at all and she has extremely healthy feet - you can actually see the healthy sole underneath when the big chunks come off.
I really love to use Red Horse Sole Cleanse for any thrushy feet, and I tend to use it about once a week as a maintenance application as well. I think they also do a paste which is for worse cases of thrush which stays on the foot a bit longer? They are all natural products, so I don't worry about them being necrotising, etc - but the most important thing is that the ones I have tried do actually work!!
I really love to use Red Horse Sole Cleanse for any thrushy feet, and I tend to use it about once a week as a maintenance application as well. I think they also do a paste which is for worse cases of thrush which stays on the foot a bit longer? They are all natural products, so I don't worry about them being necrotising, etc - but the most important thing is that the ones I have tried do actually work!!
Bowen4Horses
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Hi all...
jeez, i went to bed, had a nice sleep... meanwhile world war three broke out over hydrogen peroxide....
anyhoo... i'm on the hunt for a farrier. sadly few and far between here...
Raff's little foot wasn't too bad this morning. reading the above post, i does look like it's exfoliation. he's not in much work at all, and literally plods in for flat dry field into stable. sometimes for a plod down the road. i think what scares me is that he has much 'deeper' soles that i am used to, so it feels odd that he's shedding something that already looks too deep to me. i did ask the farrier about the deepness and he said it was fine and typical of his breeding.
i might pop up to the vets later anyway and see what he says about thrush. if it is thrush, it's only mild, and it's not super dooper smelly like some i've smelt! i might try that sole cleanse stuff anyway, esp if it can be used weekly for maintenance - as i know his stable is always clean, and his field is ok. so i hope he's not going to be prone to thrush (though i guess there's worse he could be prone to!)
thank you for all your replies. apologies for starting a peroxide war....
jeez, i went to bed, had a nice sleep... meanwhile world war three broke out over hydrogen peroxide....
anyhoo... i'm on the hunt for a farrier. sadly few and far between here...
Raff's little foot wasn't too bad this morning. reading the above post, i does look like it's exfoliation. he's not in much work at all, and literally plods in for flat dry field into stable. sometimes for a plod down the road. i think what scares me is that he has much 'deeper' soles that i am used to, so it feels odd that he's shedding something that already looks too deep to me. i did ask the farrier about the deepness and he said it was fine and typical of his breeding.
i might pop up to the vets later anyway and see what he says about thrush. if it is thrush, it's only mild, and it's not super dooper smelly like some i've smelt! i might try that sole cleanse stuff anyway, esp if it can be used weekly for maintenance - as i know his stable is always clean, and his field is ok. so i hope he's not going to be prone to thrush (though i guess there's worse he could be prone to!)
thank you for all your replies. apologies for starting a peroxide war....
TheFarrier
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crumbly sole sounds like natural exfoliation and the smell is probably thrush of which you have many options to treat it with including foot rot spray, HP, tea tree oil and good old purple spray
Peter026
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Also, could try Thrush buster, which hasn't been mentioned yet