Cushings support supplements

[AutumnDays]

Anyone use any and see that they make a difference? I've posted before about the bay boy having symptoms that made me think Cushings, but when he was tested it came back as negative (can't remember the levels, but vet said not to worry). I'm still not convinced, and I believe there is another test that they can have done? In the meantime, while I look into that and arrange a vet visit, I'm wondering if adding any of the nutritional support options that are available would actually help at all? He has the pot belly, yet is ribby, loses his coat later than the others and very patchily, reoccurring hoof abscesses this winter, and just generally not looking quite right. The locum who came out to take the bloods last time said he definitely looked it, and was as surprised as me when the results said no...

 

[poiuytrewq]

There is another test. I can’t remember the name but I was told to get it done if my ponies came back negative. It didn’t so there was no need but apparently it’s much better.
I’ve just started mine on Naf Laminaze. No idea if it’s any good but it was on sale and I thought for the price worth a shot.

 

[FieldOrnaments]

There is another test. I can’t remember the name but I was told to get it done if my ponies came back negative. It didn’t so there was no need but apparently it’s much better.
I’ve just started mine on Naf Laminaze. No idea if it’s any good but it was on sale and I thought for the price worth a shot.

TRH stim - if symptomatic and/or ACTH negative or equivocal

 

[AutumnDays]

@FieldOrnaments thank you! Noted in the brain book (diary)! @poiuytrewq I was looking at the Cushineze or however you spell it, the laminaze was another... Just don't want to throw money away if they do nothing, between these guys, the sheep and the cattle, they are all determined to spend my money these last few weeks

 

[FieldOrnaments]

So far as supplements go nothing can stop progression of the disease except pergolide but things like ceylon cinnamon, chromium, nettle to improve insulin sensitivity; astragalus if adiponectin is low or horse isn't losing weight/has had laminitis; magnesium oxide to reduce fluid retention and aid insulin sensitivity; micronised linseed to help skin and coat; so far as commercial Cushing's supplements goes I doubt they have enough of any one thing, at the recommended feeding rates, to actually make a difference. Otherwise it's just being careful with husbandry (so balanced diet, regular FEWC and dental checks - if medicating fenugreek can help appetite and salt in feed if peeing and drinking lots) and finding ways to manage symptoms (eg insulin dysregulation, polydipsia).

 

[AutumnDays]

So far as supplements go nothing can stop progression of the disease except pergolide but things like ceylon cinnamon, chromium, nettle to improve insulin sensitivity; astragalus if adiponectin is low or horse isn't losing weight/has had laminitis; magnesium oxide to reduce fluid retention and aid insulin sensitivity; micronised linseed to help skin and coat; so far as commercial Cushing's supplements goes I doubt they have enough of any one thing, at the recommended feeding rates, to actually make a difference. Otherwise it's just being careful with husbandry (so balanced diet, regular FEWC and dental checks - if medicating fenugreek can help appetite and salt in feed if peeing and drinking lots) and finding ways to manage symptoms (eg insulin dysregulation, polydipsia).

Thank you so much for sharing that information, I really appreciate it! They are all kept the same as they are all non ridden, so not fat, good meadow hay, movement encouraging fields, token feed for salts etc, dental checks every 10 months etc etc... interesting that they are marketing them as supportive but don't seem to contain enough at recommended rates to be supportive

 

[Cragrat]

My old boy was on Agnus Castus for a while. I now wonder if that was a mistake I put him on the AC as a just in case, when the only thing was a bit iffy was a woolly coat in winter ( he's near as damn it TB). He suddenly went 'off' this autumn, and I had him tested despite the vets not being convinced he was PPID. His levels cams back 4.5 x normal for the time of year!

I think the AC had masked his symptoms but not slowed the progression. I stopped the AC and started the pergolide. It took a nail-biting few weeks to kick in, but when it did, the transformation was fanstastic.

On advice from Progressive Earth I added Jiaogulan recently, which has sorted out his puffy legs/sheath/eyes.

I really wish I had started the pergolide earlier tbh.