"Cut and shut" what does it mean?

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As title, it's a phrase that comes up quite regularly on here. I've been around horses some years now and have no idea what it means, any pics to demonstate would be good. Thanks in advance.
 
Means it looks like the horse is made up of the two different animals joined together. So the front end doesn't really match the back.

I'll find you a photo of BH he's a bit like this. Hold hard :)

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so he has a big old neck on him, no butt and is improbably long in the back. Kind of like he is made up of all different parts? He's not the most extreme case you'll ever see mind you :)

hehe Dee posted as I was finding a picture. Big heavy head, neck and shoulders? check. very light behind? check
 
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It's taken from the car world where the front of one accident damaged car is welded to the back of another accident damaged car.

In the horse world it means a horse whose front end doesn't match the back. ie something with a big heavy head, neck and shoulders that's very light behind.
 
It's cut and shunt it means the front and the back of the horse looks as if they ought to have belonged to different horses.
It comes from cars when unscrupulous garages piece together two cars one written off after a accident to the front and the other after an accident to the back.
 
Thanks Jess, I can see what you mean but apart from being a bit heavy around his shoulders he looks very nice. Would it affect them performance wise or is it just a bit unsightly?
 
Millikins said:
Thanks Jess, I can see what you mean but apart from being a bit heavy around his shoulders he looks very nice. Would it affect them performance wise or is it just a bit unsightly?
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Well mine gets along just fine despite his improbable shape :) I expect mine could be made to look a lot more balanced though if I made a concerted effort to build up his bottom. I'm just lazy :o
 
Years ago it used to be a common problem as 2 cars would be badly welded together and in the event of an accident, fall to bits. Is illegal not to declare it (or maybe to do it now not sure).
 
I've used the term on here, & it does come from cars (the welding together of the front of one car to the back of another so 2 dmaged cars can make one very illegal car). It is used to describe a horse whose front end does not match the back end.
 
Millikins said:
Would it affect them performance wise or is it just a bit unsightly?
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It can do. OH's horse is a bit like this - head and neck of an Irish Draught but with the long spindly legs and angular bum of a TB chaser, plus a very long back. He jumps well but finds flatwork hard - he can do the basic stuff but finds it physically hard to get his hindquarters engaged and carry himself.
 
Many many years ago, without knowing it, I bought a 'cut and shut' car - for months all was fine until one day I took a corner a bit too fast, braked sharply to hear a horrendous metallic noise coming from behind the passenger seat. Drove it to my local garage (about 20 miles from where I was). My mechanic came out to have a look and told me the back of the car had come partially away from the front. Obviously I couldn't drive it again - rang the local plod who put me in touch with the old fashioned equivalent of VOSA. I went to the garage who sold it to me, with an MOT!!!! told them what had happened, gave them my mechanic's number and created holy hell! Garage paid me back in full (hoping I would just walk away with my money) next day VOSA turned up and shut the garage down. Glad I got my money back beforehand. I loved that car too - Morris 1100
 
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