Cut mouth - at wit's end.

[MissMay]

Try drop the bit a hole so it's not constantly aggravating the scar tissue. I also used to use a flexi bit with peanut roller for my sensitive girl which made a big difference

 

[billylula]

He will be like our horse H when I bought him he had a badly cut mouth on one side they where hunting him ( a hireling ) in a Dutch gag and he was green and scared and just running .
I thought we will get that right ,oh so wrong although it healed it was so chronic that the scar tissue was never as strong the original skin was .
All summer we have no problems then as soon as the winter comes and he’s ridden for more hours ( he’s hunts ) the problems start . He was five when got him and he’s thirteen now .
like your horse he does not take much contact and he will stop on a voice aid although he can be keen out hunting ,we hunt him in a double bridle this was a break through we have got on much better since then .I am not totally sure why I think because he's very settled in it .

He’s had veterinary imput and its the vets view that the issue is the scar tissue is weaker than normal mouth skin so once when we up the hours the problems start its to with the lack of elasticity in the reorganised tissue .
things that help are those gel bit rings that go a little along the bit .
The lasering really helps the healing when it’s been bad .
and finding that new skin stuff has been brilliant .

Try the new skin stuff I buy mine from eBay and I put it on him morning ,before riding after riding and the evening once he’s hunting , we have got now a system that manages it .
If he has a crack and I have the physio I get her to laser it they heal really fast with a laser .
I had an awful time with it at one point and I now can keep on top of it .

That is great advice thank you. We did buy him from a hunt yard, he was absolutely crazy out hunting so I imagine they had to use a lot of force. It's exactly that, scar tissue.

I'd be really interested to know more about the physio and i will definitely try the New skin, never heard of it before.

 

[billylula]

Try drop the bit a hole so it's not constantly aggravating the scar tissue. I also used to use a flexi bit with peanut roller for my sensitive girl which made a big difference

Yes going to drop it down one tomorrow and see if that helps

 

[billylula]

Titanium - can't say much more for fear of being accused of advertising - but several horses with this issue have resolved completely when changing over to titanium bits.

But be aware if the style of cheekpiece tends to go anywhere near the corners of the mouth you need a bit with both titanium mouthpiece and titanium cheekpieces.

Ask specifically before you buy because most titanium bits have stainless steel cheekpieces and only the mouthpiece is titanium, but this is never made clear in the bit description and advertising. That is grand of course and they are excellent bits, unless you are using it specifically for sores and damage to the corner of the lips, then you must go for full titanium including cheekpieces.

He already loves his bombers happy tongue, i think they do a titanium version?

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

He already loves his bombers happy tongue, i think they do a titanium version?

I am not sure which of the Bombers they do in Titanium - but well worth having a look to see if they do. What cheek pieces do you use at the moment?

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Sorry just re read your post that it is a universal. I might have been able to help you but not with the universal cheek pieces but I would expect Bombers do them in titanium but do bear in mind about the stainless steel cheekpieces might not work for this particular issue. But if it is an egg butt style titanium universal and the whole of the actual mouthpiece is titanium right up to and around the cheekpieces then that should be ok as very little chance of the stainless steel part of the mouthpiece coming into contact of the corner of his lips.

 

[Equi]

To throw another possible into the mix, have you looked at a leather bit?

 

[LadyGascoyne]

Hackamores put a lot of pressure on the poll which may be what causes him to over-bend.

Have you tried something which applies more pressure to the nose, like a sidepull or something which spreads the pressure more like a cross under?

 

[Ceifer]

We had a Hunter come it years ago that was really fussy in the mouth. He’d come wearing a rubber snaffle and had apparently always been ridden in one. The new owner got the vets to investigate and it turned out that the horse had extensive jaw damage and I think bone splinters. She managed to ride him in a hackamore so was ok.
The vet recommended Stockholm tar for the cut mouth, which did heal but he didn’t ever have a bit in again so that will shave helped.

 

[HufflyPuffly]

Just to add, I have to put Skyllas bit up a hole to avoid the rub area, so do check if the rub looks above or below the bit.

 

[Cob Life]

I was recommended to try a rubber bit and bit butter Before each ride

he can be incredibly strong out in the field so I use a rubber Pelham, at home a rubber snaffle.

 

[billylula]

He's not obviously sensitive in the mouth. Ta

Just to add, I have to put Skyllas bit up a hole to avoid the rub area, so do check if the rub looks above or below the bit.

thank you. Its directly in the corner of the mouth.