DAF 130 vs 150? Also ? on axle weights.

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Help me in my lorry quest please! Every single nice one I find has some kind of hitch. Found a nice DAF for sale but it's only a 130. How much difference does it make to driving?

Also, found what I thought was a nice one with an unladen weight of 5.1tonnes (much better than the one locally that looked perfect until found out it only had a payload of 1.1tonnes). However, friend has said need to be careful regarding axle weights as likely to have overloaded rear axles. This bit confuses me as to how I check out whether it's weights are ok>??

Thanks!
 
Find the VOSA weight plate

It will have 4 weights on it

They will always be in this order

1 - GVW
2 - GTW
3 - Front axle
4 - Rear axle

Unladen weight can only be determined by a weighbridge so ask for a recent ticket
 
My dad reckons we need a 150. We have a n reg daf 150 at the moment which is nice and quick and powerful up hills. We want to travel 3 so want a powerful lorry- not sure if traveling one is different!
 
I will only be travelling one most of the time, occasionally 2 if that makes any difference to needing a 150 over a 130.

ok ROG - i have seen those plates in lorries I've been in but what do they mean? What does friend mean when he says concerned rear axles will be overweight when lorry is advertised as having unladen wt of 5.1tonnes.
 
Has the DAF you looked at been downplated for some weird reason because all the others I checked were 7.5 tonnes GVW so with an unladen weight of 5.1 tonnes that would give a payload of 2.4 tonnes

Me confused a little
 
no, not downplated. obviously total weight will be fine but there are limits on what weights you can put over each axle and friend (who works for VOSA) thinks rear axles likely to be overloaded with 3 horses on board. (although I'm only planning on putting 2 on max) apparently you can get fined for axles being overweight as much as if total weight is over.
 
star said:
I will only be travelling one most of the time, occasionally 2 if that makes any difference to needing a 150 over a 130.

ok ROG - i have seen those plates in lorries I've been in but what do they mean? What does friend mean when he says concerned rear axles will be overweight when lorry is advertised as having unladen wt of 5.1tonnes.
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Ask the owner if they have changed the rear axle etc because at the moment that is the only thing that makes any sense
 
star said:
no, not downplated. obviously total weight will be fine but there are limits on what weights you can put over each axle and friend (who works for VOSA) thinks rear axles likely to be overloaded with 3 horses on board. (although I'm only planning on putting 2 on max) apparently you can get fined for axles being overweight as much as if total weight is over.
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Rear axles are higher than front axles on trucks

It MUST have been downplated because they come plated at 7.5 tonnes GVW

If the rear axle has been changed for a lower rated one with living at the front then the weight of all 3 horses will be more over the rear axle than the front

In a normal 7.5 tonner this will not be a problem because of the rear axle weight allowance but something is odd with this one !!
 
you've totally lost me. it is advertised as 7.5 tonnes with 5.1tonnes unladen weight. That's all the advert says. Nothing about axle weights or downplating.

Showed friend the advert and he said check the axle weights as back one might be overweight fully loaded. I dont understand how you find out if it will be overweight.
 
star said:
you've totally lost me. it is advertised as 7.5 tonnes with 5.1tonnes unladen weight. That's all the advert says. Nothing about axle weights or downplating.

Showed friend the advert and he said check the axle weights as back one might be overweight fully loaded. I dont understand how you find out if it will be overweight.
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OOOOOPSSS !!

I misread your OP and thought it said a payload of 1.1 tonnes

With it being a 7.5 tonner with a payload of 2.4 tonnes then I fail to see how the rear axle will be overloaded even with three horses weighing a total of 1.6 tonnes occupying the rear 12 feet
 
me either. much confusion! not sure how you check that each axle is not over the weight on the plate without taking lorry to weighbridge when I view it.
 
star said:
me either. much confusion! not sure how you check that each axle is not over the weight on the plate without taking lorry to weighbridge when I view it.
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Weighbridge is the ONLY way

ADVICE - I would take it empty to a weighbridge and have 3 weights taken
front axle only with rear axles just off WB
both axles on WB
rear axle on WB with front just off

You will find that adding up the front and rear is the same as when both are on it

After doing that you will know what payload each axle has as well as the total payload
 
Star, i would have thought if you only want to take one horse and occasionally two, its really not a problem. Thats got a payload like mine so i could legally take 3 but only take one or sometimes two.
 
I've got a 130 and it's fine but it goes up hills in its own time with 2 on board. Not a problem as I have no wish to go zooming up hills but I imagine the 150 is better.
 
stilton said:
Star, i would have thought if you only want to take one horse and occasionally two, its really not a problem. Thats got a payload like mine so i could legally take 3 but only take one or sometimes two.
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thanks - just paranoid about making a very expensive mistake!


criso - thanks - it's not that hilly around here but I do have to go up the M40 to some events and that kills my 4x4 - end up doing 30mph by the time we get to the top!
 
Our recently deceased 45/130 was a chugger up the hills and was an M reg. However, it happily did 60 plus on dual carriageways...not that we often did. Our 04 plate that we picked up last night is also a 45/130 and went like stink up all hillson way home ...although it was empty.
 
star said:
Help me in my lorry quest please! Every single nice one I find has some kind of hitch. Found a nice DAF for sale but it's only a 130. How much difference does it make to driving?

Also, found what I thought was a nice one with an unladen weight of 5.1tonnes (much better than the one locally that looked perfect until found out it only had a payload of 1.1tonnes). However, friend has said need to be careful regarding axle weights as likely to have overloaded rear axles. This bit confuses me as to how I check out whether it's weights are ok>??

Thanks!
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If its pre 2001 and the old leyland daf 45 turbo not an LF then the only diference is the calibration of the pump which someone who knows diesels would be able to tweek a little for more power so I wouldnt worry but do make sure its a turbo otherwise it realy will always be a slow slug!!! as to axle weights the only way to be 100% is to take it to a weighbridge and do each axle if its 5000ish unladen i doubt you would have a problem the plate in the cab tells you the maximum allowable axle 1 is front and 2 the rear.....
 
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