Dangers of front facing horse boxes

The problem is not the front or rear facing bit but the fact that the horse sees daylight and tries to climb forward to it.
 
Mike007 said:
The problem is not the front or rear facing bit but the fact that the horse sees daylight and tries to climb forward to it.
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IF you can see the daylight. A friend uses a front facing box all the time and there's no daylight, have had to get tack out it in the pitch black before now it's that bad.

I was thinking more in terms of the horse will be on the side of the driver and forward movement.

Either way, not good :(
 
It dosent mattter whether its forward or rear faceing I think the problem is when there is a open grooms area in front of the horse and just a low bulkhead, it seems to look like a escape route to them and oftern ends with a horrid acident especily if there isnt a way to get the horse out like in the 3.5 ton toy horse boxes where there is just a narrow door, there needs to be a rule or law that the horse area is boxed in and has a solid buckhead between the living/grooms area and the horse area...
 
The recent awfull accidents have been due to horses climbing over the breast bar/partition.It is a very scary thing ,and one that I have been greatly concerned by. If yo look at the footage closely ,you will see the firemen(arent they brilliant)cut away an intact forward bulkhead.All these incidents need to be looked at closely. The new lighter boxes and unconventional configurations, have we missed somthing?It truely worries me.
 
There is no way i would transport a horse of mine in a burger-van.
Not in the slightest bit surprised TBH.
Just glad the horse is OK.
And of course the driver.
 
Mike007 said:
The recent awfull accidents have been due to horses climbing over the breast bar/partition.It is a very scary thing ,and one that I have been greatly concerned by. If yo look at the footage closely ,you will see the firemen(arent they brilliant)cut away an intact forward bulkhead.All these incidents need to be looked at closely. The new lighter boxes and unconventional configurations, have we missed somthing?It truely worries me.
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Yeah, they were really good watching. Incredibly patient and calm.

I know nothing regarding bulkheads and the like though *typical girl* :D
 
teapot said:
Yeah, they were really good watching. Incredibly patient and calm.

I know nothing regarding bulkheads and the like though *typical girl* :D
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Oi , thats sexist, you are steriotyping me as the typical male mechanic,not in touch with his feminine side(ok youve got me bang to rights,but its the principle:D).
 
Mike007 said:
Sorry my post crossed yours perfect 11,s,glad your aboard on this one. It really does worry me.
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thanks yes worrys me too its time there was some laws about these little lorrys and the unsafe designs that they(builders) all seem to blindly follow and copy, its not the users fault!!! hopefully someone will sue a manufacturer over a unsafe design and it will make for safer small lorrys ...
 
Personally, I think the problem is the fact these lorries have been designed to fill a gap in the market with the 3.5tonne rule. To keep the lorry under weight when you have a horse on they are no longer made from substantial material that will keep a horse safe and seperate from a driver.

What a briliant job the fire brigade did, and hope all involved are ok.
 
sounds as if horse is none the worse for it. Cant say I would want to be in the box with him going home today!.
BLUE VINNEY is reported to be "absolutely fine" by Marcus Tregoning after going berserk in the trainer's horsebox on Friday afternoon, forcing the closure of the busy A23 near Brighton in both directions.
Stable groom, Govind Singh, who was accompanying the two-year-old colt back to Lambourn, was taken to hospital suffering cuts to the head, but was later released.
The incident happened shortly after Blue Vinney left the racecourse where he had earlier fly-jumped in the stalls and unseated Tadhag O'Shea before completing the race riderless.
He was cut free by the firemen after getting over the top of the horsebox's partition and becoming trapped in the living quarters of the vehicle which was being driven by Tregoning's travelling head groom, Pippa Platt.
Tregoning said on Saturday: "Blue Vinney is absolutely fine. He spent the night at Hickstead and is coming back this morning, and Govind went to Sussex County Hospital with cuts to the head, but I brought him back last night."
 
nativeponies said:
Living quarters? The bloody horse was IN THE CAB!!!
What a crock of shyte..journo at its worst
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im not sure but it looked
to me it was a small lorry with a small grooms area between the cab and the horse area and there is a small door into the cab, my guess is the colt jumped the bulkhead and ended up in the grooms area behind the cab then the driver opens the door to see whats going on the colt sees daylight and trys to get through and flails around injureing the groom and getting stuck...
 
Yup ,pretty much my thoughts except I bet he had both doors open to keep abetter eye on horse,and horse found he could see a way out. The point is that we need to know because it is important.
 
These boxes scare the hell out of me. I have seen a couple of mega ones that are mega bucks too, £30k plus but a lot of the cheaper ones are awful. A couple of horsetransporters in my area have done away with the breast bar and just have a solid wall.
 
I hired one once. We were well within weight limits. One medium horse one pony. Pony lashed out at horse. In the process pony bounced off the outside wall of the horsebox. The effect of that nearly took us off the road. All watched in horror on the CCTV. Neither horse nor pony were harmed, but I nearly had heart failure.
 
perfect11s said:
im not sure but it looked
to me it was a small lorry with a small grooms area between the cab and the horse area and there is a small door into the cab, my guess is the colt jumped the bulkhead and ended up in the grooms area behind the cab then the driver opens the door to see whats going on the colt sees daylight and trys to get through and flails around injureing the groom and getting stuck...
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Still a crock of shyte.

Should be banned
 
Chuffing glad I was'nt the driver, what a horrid thing to happened to the horse and the drivers. So what might be at fault here!!! I think the grooms door was open as the horse was messing about before hand and they wanted to give the horse comfort, by opening the door so the horse could see them.... I have heard a few stories of horses making the great escape thought any exit and one story ended very very tragically
 
For me ,the wonder remains ,that the horse is so trusting of us ,that it will voluntarily climb inside these fantasticly scary contraptions. When I have a difficult horse to load ,my reaction is ,"you and me both" mate.
 
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