daughter has broken arm

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after a fall at college on a youngster that has been dumping a lot of them, it even dumped another rider in the morning and my daughter in the afternoon, after my daughter came off the horse continued with its display and caused another 2 riders to come off. I remember staff lesson sometimes going in a similar way years ago.

so 3 hrs at a& e to be told yes it is an undisplaced fracture of you go and reception will give you an app with the fracture clinic, so reception tell us fracture clinic will call us for app as the waiting list is shorter that way round, speak to fracture clinic and they don't put a cast on the sort of fracture she has these days, she is in a lot of pain and did not want a fuss when I picked her up from college but a grey face tells told me we needed to get it checked. pointless post but wish she was having a cast to protect it especially with half term next week.
 
What has she got on it atm?

You can get arm braces with a metal support - when I broke my wrist I was in one of those for the final 2 weeks I was meant to be in a cast.

Lots of painkillers, tea and healing vibes will do her the world of good :)
 
So sorry to hear this -its awful being a mum when daughter is hurt and not knowing if we should be shouting for a particular treatment or not. Hot chocolate with mallows, painkillers and love - hope it mends quickly
 
I thought it might be. I did similar (is typical of a putting hands out to save yourself fall) and had a back slab cast for a week which then came off then a sling for a couple of weeks using it as much as possible, official physio after 3 weeks but she was pretty useless :p. They don't cast them as they are effectively splinted by the ulna and you get more issues with not using the muscles etc if you cast them. Once it starts to feel a little better (painkillers in the meantime ;) ) make sure that she starts to move it as much as she can and also get a stress ball or similar for squeezing practice. Check out how physio works in your area, sometimes you have to self refer :).
 
ester said:
I thought it might be. I did similar (is typical of a putting hands out to save yourself fall) and had a back slab cast for a week which then came off then a sling for a couple of weeks using it as much as possible, official physio after 3 weeks but she was pretty useless :p. They don't cast them as they are effectively splinted by the ulna and you get more issues with not using the muscles etc if you cast them. Once it starts to feel a little better (painkillers in the meantime ;) ) make sure that she starts to move it as much as she can and also get a stress ball or similar for squeezing practice. Check out how physio works in your area, sometimes you have to self refer :).
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thanx ester, she is uncomfortable but not in agony, the sling makes it more painful but she has nothing else, we have a fracture clinic app tomorrow so will ask about using a stress ball, she is getting some numbness and tingling in her hand and fingers so I spoke to fc they said it is most likely due to swelling putting pressure on the ulnar nerve. Physio referral here is via hospital/consultant or doctor an they did say it may be needed-how long before you were back to normal duties?

her hand wrist and fingers are very swollen which I was not expecting, obviously elbow is swollen but I am not worried about that
 
cool, you should get more info at the fracture clinic, no need for stress ball just yet, the physio suggested I did dusting, I improvised ;)

not at elbow end Wiz/radial head they are stable and as I said the soft tissue immobilisation is worse than the break.
 
To reduce the swelling and pain she needs to get the arm up preferably raised for a time above her heart so if the sling hurts the arm of a chair with pillows on should do the trick if she lets it hang it will swell more
 
It will be sore for the first few days particularly. I've never had a cast on anything I've broken yet (five seperate breaks), so don't worry too much about that. Get her to rest, wear the sling if she has to move about and take pain killers. Pillows under the arm at the side of the body at night may help too. She sounds lucky to have a caring mum who will look after her. Hope she feels better soon.
 
I had a fracture there in January last year, stupidly didn't get it looked at for 4 weeks by which time it had healed - the hospital told me that they wouldn't have done anything about it anyway.

Hope she's feeling better soon, it's a sore one! Mine still aches in cold weather.
 
twiggy2 said:
it is the bone that runs from thumb to elbw-the radius? at the elbow end
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I broke this coming off a youngster a few years ago. At first they didn't put a cast on but i barely slept the first night with the pain from moving it so when I went to the fracture clinic they did a sort of half bandage/half cast for me to keep it stable and that was a lot better. Had that on for 3 weeks i think.
Are the college doing something about the horse? Surely its not safe to have a horse that keeps dumping students
 
Poor girly hope she feels better soon

Should the college really have students riding a youngster (good riders or not) that would be quite irresponsible to me. They have a duty of care to protect the students whilst in their care and this to me sounds like negligence, both for the students and the horse? I would be putting in a serious complaint if I were you Twiggy. Hope she gets better soon
 
i thought it sounds irresponsible to keep using it when they know its not safe!!
I would have actually been a bit miffed about it. What are they going to do leave it till it seriously injures someone?
 
BeingKate said:
Poor girly hope she feels better soon

Should the college really have students riding a youngster (good riders or not) that would be quite irresponsible to me. They have a duty of care to protect the students whilst in their care and this to me sounds like negligence, both for the students and the horse? I would be putting in a serious complaint if I were you Twiggy. Hope she gets better soon
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They are also charged with preparing these young people for a career in the industry, and getting slung off youngsters is part of working with horses. I got planted many times when I was training, and I very soon decided that I needed to learn how to stay on the tricky ones. Learning how to be sticky was probably the most useful lesson I learned...
 
I broke my Femur in June and had a full leg cast on - for me, it hurt for about the first 2 weeks and I was on a mixture of CoCodomal and Ibuprofen tablets every 2 hours (I think it was 2 CoCodomal and 1 Ibu?) Your best best is to go to Boots Pharmacy for example and tell them what has happened - they should be able to advise you of medication like they did with me! :) (Although, I got told by over 3 people inc. Boots that I should've still been in Hospital on Morphine...) :D

Wishing your daughter a speeding recovery!
 
I broke my humerus falling off a youngster and I wasn't able to have a cast on so I was sent home with a sling on and pain killers - I think they were codeine probably with ibuprofen.
 
Auslander said:
They are also charged with preparing these young people for a career in the industry, and getting slung off youngsters is part of working with horses. I got planted many times when I was training, and I very soon decided that I needed to learn how to stay on the tricky ones. Learning how to be sticky was probably the most useful lesson I learned...
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Yes that's what I was thinking. I learned at a Livery and Breaking yard initially. Learned to stick on well, and also got to know what the arena surface tasted of, then went to a college and was "polished up"!
 
Honey08 said:
Yes that's what I was thinking. I learned at a Livery and Breaking yard initially. Learned to stick on well, and also got to know what the arena surface tasted of, then went to a college and was "polished up"!
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I work with horses and agree it is part and parcel of the training BUT I will be making sure they pay her sick leave for the time she cannot work-she works both saturday and sunday for the college and whilst I agree accidents happen the horse has history so feel they should pay sick cover for the whole time she cannot work as the injury happened whilst in their care as a student.
 
Honey08 said:
Yes they should pay her sick pay for those days, I agree.

How's she doing?
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Sore and she is not one to complain (she lives with constant back pain and has done for over 6yrs), she is still a bit grey so she is struggling-she wanted to go to a friends today as she is so bored but when it came to it said she could not go as it was too painful.
hopefully the pain will ease of a bit over the next day or so.

thanx for all the well wishes from you all
 
I agree with learning to stick on frisky young horses, I learned by riding for dealers and a show jumper. It was the best education. I do despair when I see some "educated" riders with more stages than a Stagecoach, who have no idea how to deal with a strop.....

BUT.....

It does disturb me that one particular horse is continually face planting students. It would be like teaching the poor horse that if he bucks for long enough they will come off and he can escape round the school, no rider. I don't think many yards would be happy with this situation, not for the horses and not for the riders.

I guess in a standard "group lesson" it is not possible to teach the intricacies of seeing the warning signs, putting in the work to overcome resistance, building the horse's compliance and confidence. To me, though, these are the real lessons that these people need to learn.

Falling off is easy. Learning to stick on is a useful tool. Learning horsemanship is more the lesson that I would prefer MY daughter to learn (if I had one;)).

I would be interested to know the proposed schooling program, and I wonder who owns the horse?
 
Red-1 said:
I agree with learning to stick on frisky young horses, I learned by riding for dealers and a show jumper. It was the best education. I do despair when I see some "educated" riders with more stages than a Stagecoach, who have no idea how to deal with a strop.....

BUT.....

It does disturb me that one particular horse is continually face planting students. It would be like teaching the poor horse that if he bucks for long enough they will come off and he can escape round the school, no rider. I don't think many yards would be happy with this situation, not for the horses and not for the riders.

I guess in a standard "group lesson" it is not possible to teach the intricacies of seeing the warning signs, putting in the work to overcome resistance, building the horse's compliance and confidence. To me, though, these are the real lessons that these people need to learn.

Falling off is easy. Learning to stick on is a useful tool. Learning horsemanship is more the lesson that I would prefer MY daughter to learn (if I had one;)).

I would be interested to know the proposed schooling program, and I wonder who owns the horse?
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the horse has been playing up since turn out stopped and haylage and hard feed started being fed!! I will be asking how many times it has had students off and if each one is logged and where they go now, if the horse was frisky and having a buck I would have far less of an issue but it bolts stops spins and bucks then keeps doing the same thing till the rider comes off-I need to speak to the instructors and gain a rounded view of events and also remember my daughter is almost 18 and a young adult-she needs my support to deal with this not me wading in so it is really tough to find a balance-our relationship has not been easy and I need to show her some respect with how this is handled.
 
So sorry to see this - my daughter broke her arm a couple of years ago when we were on a riding holiday and I felt very responsible! I remember how uncomfortable it was for her. Do hope the fracture clinic help your daughter and that she stops feeling sore very soon. x x
 
tobiano said:
So sorry to see this - my daughter broke her arm a couple of years ago when we were on a riding holiday and I felt very responsible! I remember how uncomfortable it was for her. Do hope the fracture clinic help your daughter and that she stops feeling sore very soon. x x
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Thank you, I just want to try and support her in making sure the college do the right thing
 
Auslander said:
They are also charged with preparing these young people for a career in the industry, and getting slung off youngsters is part of working with horses. I got planted many times when I was training, and I very soon decided that I needed to learn how to stay on the tricky ones. Learning how to be sticky was probably the most useful lesson I learned...
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I suppose so, but I do wonder if they've looked into why the horse keeps bucking people off... this would concern me more than the people falling off it (but then I am much more a horse person than a people person :) )
 
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