David Marlin decided to study us :)

DabDab said:
Well I'm very concerned about the poor neglected horses in the care of someone who doesn't know the average speed on a BE novice xc round 😱
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Tsk, tsk. Shameful lack of knowledge, that.

ETA Was there a 'I don't know the answer' option available for each Q if appropriate, or did you have to blag an answer to be able complete the questionaire?
 
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The question that had the lowest proportion of correct answers in the easy section was asking what the lay name for the DIPJ was.

In the medium section it was identifying the correct HPA for front and hind feet (i assume that there were pictures)

And in the hard section it was 'define uphill' (again I assume that there must have been pictures or something)
 
Tiddlypom said:
Tsk, tsk. Shameful lack of knowledge, that.

ETA Was there a 'I don't know the answer' option available for each Q if appropriate, or did you have to blag an answer to be able complete the questionaire?
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Or an I'd rather not answer option - which might be selected by a respondent who doesn't feel that the options are sufficiently nuanced to answer the question properly...
 
JFTD said:
Or an I'd rather not answer option - which might be selected by a respondent who doesn't feel that the options are sufficiently nuanced to answer the question properly...
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Yes, I have to say that just reading the questions I was thinking for a few, I bet they wouldn't have an option for the answer I actually wanted to give.
 
To be fair, the research was not about whether you knew the correct answer to any question, but about whether you didn't but thought you did.

But like others, I'm at a loss to know what impact on horse welfare knowing or not knowing the answer to that question was, and to draw the conclusion that horse welfare could be impacted the survey should have stuck to questions that would actually impact horse welfare, don't we think?
 
Ah but you can think you know the answer but had to put something else down as the 'right' answer wasn't an option see ;).

and Rowreach feel free ;). My latest was emailing someone saying ermm this survey seems to think I have only had therapy once... you're missing out on a lot of data ;) :D
 
Molasses said:
That’s rather funny in the obvious way that if you did that for any group of people in any sphere you’d get that result.

Famously drivers tend to all believe they are better than average drivers.
Engineers believe they know everything about soil and never need to consult a geologist.
Politicians certainly think they know more. It’s a human thing. Not a horse-rider thing
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The article admits as much. But by referring to the Dunning–Kruger effect without explaining what it is, the article missed out on an opportunity to explain things more fully.

No surprises, then, that the end of the e-published article is a plug for the print version of the magazine.
 
MotherOfChickens said:
I do not have the first clue, neither do I care. would have aced all the others though :p
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Mate, I'd have aced all of it...I'm such a brilliant horse owner my horses gloat to the other neighbourhood horses about the immaculate care they receive.


(i'm joking, obviously....I'm pretty sure my horses think I'm ridiculous, but it entertains them to humour me)
 
ycbm said:
Sample size of 128 on that one leading to conclusions that people don't know enough to care for a horse and need education. Research carried out by an education establishment presumably happy to provide said education.
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Haha. Yes exactly!
 
now there's the rub -

they's talking about horses - and we have ponies, and as anyone who's been around equines for more than 5 minutes knows, ponies have their own rules, and know exactly who's In Charge* :):)
(and ponies really really really don't care what the speed of a BE novice event is. To mine, depending upon what they feel like that day, it's either stand-in-the-sun-smelling-the-flowers or top-speed for as long as they fancy).



*hint - it ain't human.

ETA - I don't think I've seen the full set of questions but I do hope when analysing that they took into account different types of expertise - someone looking after competition horses will have a different set of parameters for many management options to either a pony breeder or heavy-horse handler for example.
 
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It's great fun that he's put it on Facebook what an idiot I am, isn't it? How much more foolish can you make yourself look than publicly calling someone else stupid for being right? I wonder how that fits with his theory that HHO members display the Dunning-Kruger effect 😂
 
ycbm said:
It's great fun that he's put it on Facebook what an idiot I am, isn't it? How much more foolish can you make yourself look than publicly calling someone else stupid for being right?
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Never under-estimate the power of grandiose self-delusion in certain types of people! It will still not have entered his head that he was (shock horror) actually WRONG. Neatly demonstrating the over-confidence he is discussing in his own paper.
 
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Archangel said:
When he wrote that he started riding on a piebald cob I suddenly remembered that photo of you jumping a socking great hedge.
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This one?

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There's nothing wrong with riding piebald cobs, but if you are going to use physics to explain how to rug a horse, you really did ought to get a physicist to check it before you publish.


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Ambers Echo said:
Never under-estimate the power of grandiose self-delusion in certain types of people! It will still not have entered his head that he was (shock horror) actually WRONG. Neatly demonstrating the over-confidence he is discussing in his own paper.
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Sweet irony, isn't it? Do you think I'll ever get an apology, or even a removal of the posts calling me an idiot know-it-all?
 
Why are people here taking this so personally? It wasnt directed at forum members, its part of some ongoing research with several people involved, not just David Marlin. I actually thought the HHO article was pretty funny. I also did the example questionnaire he posted recently and epically failed barely scraping 60% :rolleyes: I didnt take any of it seriously though.
 
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