Dead horse found tied up with barbed wire

Mrs. Jingle said:
Is there a link to the different information that it wasn't a deliberate act?
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I have to say I too find it very hard to believe that someone managed to tie 3 horses legs together with barbed wire. However I have seen how easy it is for a horse to get tangled in wire on it's own.
 
I wasn't going to comment, hoping the thread would fade away and stop worrying people, but since it's come up again, I agree with I'm Dun.

In these situations because it would cause such distress to the owner to effectively say "you let this happen to your ponies", the Police will very, very rarely disagree with the owner that things like this were deliberate. Remember how often in the past that wind plaits were reported as "the Police agreed my horse was marked for theft". Or a report on this forum a few months back about a mutilated horse, reportedly attacked by someone, which to all of us used to the country had clearly been got at by badgers or foxes?

"The gate had been wired shut for years." Old wire rusts or gets stressed by wind vibration and breaks, it wasn't necessarily cut. When was it last checked?

Nothing in that article supports the headline claim that police believe it was an intentional killing. They are not quoted saying that. They almost certainly didn't say it, and don't believe it. It was made up by the reporter or is what the owner is telling the reporter.

Who, just who, goes out in the pitch dark and wraps wire around the legs of ponies?

Sleep easy tonight folks, this was an accident. Check your boundaries for safety often.
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I would still like to see confirmation that this was not deliberate as originally reported. I agree it is rather unlikely but stranger things have happened. I just fail to understand why one of you can't post a link confirming your suspicions? It's no big deal surely to do so.🤷

No sleep being lost here or tearing my hair out in stress and horror, just rather read further details reported for myself rather than obediently accepting the version that random Internet users declare gospel.... purely because they said so.🤔😉
 
Mrs J can you point me to a shred of proof it was malicious?

A picture of cut wire.
Reports of lights seen in the field.
Reports of anyone in the area carrying wire cutters.
A police quote that a crime was committed.

The BBC are not renowned for the accuracy of their online news reporting.

On balance of probabilities this was a horrible accident.

Sleep easy folks and check your boundaries.
 
Whatever you say ycbm, no idea why you are getting so over excited by this? :rolleyes: I asked a simple question because some posters were presenting the alternative narrative as fact, including yourself. I believed you or others must have further evidence you had read elsewhere to confidentially report your own opinion as factual, rather than just what it was, your opinion. Hence I asked for a link. Jaysus this place sometimes!😅
 
I am not over excited. I like to help people worry less if that seems appropriate to me, and this story from the BBC falls into that category.

Horses cause us enough worries without being concerned that someone may be mad enough to tie barbed wire around their legs in the pitch dark.

Sadly for the owner, who will have feelings of guilt to make her loss even worse, there is a much more likely innocent explanation, that the gate had come loose.
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A Fell pony that was in the field with my pony didn't come for hay one morning. I found him in a ditch wrapped in sheep netting. He'd climbed up a banking got stuck in the netting at the top while trying to eat the grass next door. He'd rolled back down wrapping himself up and was in the water in the ditch stuck fast. I got the wire cutters and managed to eventually free him. He was cold and wet but not a scratch on him and lived to 30. Made of tough stuff.
 
Mrs. Jingle said:
Whatever you say ycbm, no idea why you are getting so over excited by this? :rolleyes: I asked a simple question because some posters were presenting the alternative narrative as fact, including yourself. I believed you or others must have further evidence you had read elsewhere to confidentially report your own opinion as factual, rather than just what it was, your opinion. Hence I asked for a link. Jaysus this place sometimes!😅
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There isnt a link, because horses escape and get tangled in barbed wire isn't a story. What further evidence do you need? 3 horses escaped and were sadly found tangled in wire. A huge jump was then made that someone had done this. They didn't.
 
On balance, the owner indicated they believe whoever stole them made headcollars out of wire. There are no marks on their heads or faces that make me think that's happened. I've handled barb wire, it's hard enough to get it to do what you want when you're attaching it to wood never mind an animal. On balance I think they must have wandered.
Otherwise it's someone with a real vendetta and I think there would be more noise about suspects in that case
 
I'm Dun said:
There isnt a link, because horses escape and get tangled in barbed wire isn't a story. What further evidence do you need? 3 horses escaped and were sadly found tangled in wire. A huge jump was then made that someone had done this. They didn't.
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There's a link in Maddy Moo's initial post
 
I'm Dun said:
There isnt a link, because horses escape and get tangled in barbed wire isn't a story. What further evidence do you need? 3 horses escaped and were sadly found tangled in wire. A huge jump was then made that someone had done this. They didn't.
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I'd tend to agree with you but when I saw the photo I honestly thought surely a horse can't get its leg caught to this degree especially as you can see it has been deliberately twisted.
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I got caught in barbed wire once, its awful stuff. It attaches and digs in and wraps round you. The more you move the more tangled it gets. I only moved a little bit and was caught up completely. I had to stand absolutely still while a friend cut it shorter and slowly unwrapped it all. If I'd panicked and run it would have looked similar. Its awful, awful stuff.
 
minesadouble said:
I'd literally eat my hat if this was deliberate.
3 horses led over 40 acres and legs deliberately tangled in barbed wire??
The pony in the picture is not wearing a barbed wire headcollar and bears no wire marks on it's nose or face.
Sounds like a tragic accident to me.
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I hope it wasn't deliberate. I'd prefer to imagine we live in a world where no one would do that kind of thing.

I've personally fenced over 20km in barbed wire and done umpteen fence repairs with the stuff. I've still got the scars to prove it. It's lethal to skin (& jeans) and had a mind of its own but it's never formed a loop with the tails wound like the "headcollar" in the second picture.

I didn't look at the pictures initially and thought it was a tragic accident. If that loop of wire with the tails bound is genuine that isn't how any wire behaves.
 
TPO said:
I hope it wasn't deliberate. I'd prefer to imagine we live in a world where no one would do that kind of thing.

I've personally fenced over 20km in barbed wire and done umpteen fence repairs with the stuff. I've still got the scars to prove it. It's lethal to skin (& jeans) and had a mind of its own but it's never formed a loop with the tails wound like the "headcollar" in the second picture.

I didn't look at the pictures initially and thought it was a tragic accident. If that loop of wire with the tails bound is genuine that isn't how any wire behaves.
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The wire in the second picture has been cut. I'm sure if there were 'headcollars' there would have been pictures of them in situ.
I once had a horse caught in wire and it was as though it had been wrapped round her leg and tail multiple times and took a while to cut her out, I've no idea how she managed it but I'm confident no one else was involved.
 
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