Dead horse found tied up with barbed wire

[ycbm]

I have seen barbed wire with a smaller loop exactly like that, and the twisting shown in the photo above, when clearing away the rubbish on the field I bought. I've seen similar twisting of plain wire on one of my own horses who managed to find it in the field. Multiple creative bits of barbed wire caught in the wool of sheep. And a much, much worse injury on a friend's horse when she found barbed wire in her field and thought she'd ask her husband to clear it away next day, a day too late.

Can you imagine the state of the hands of the people reported to have committed this crime, unless they were wearing chain mail gloves? Is it really believable that they went out on a pitch dark winter at dead of night and took three horses across a forty acre field to do this? At least two of the of them, because one certainly couldn't have done it.

It's simply not conceivable to me that this was a deliberate act.
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[dorsetladette]

I have seen barbed wire with a smaller loop exactly like that, and the twisting shown in the photo above, when clearing away the rubbish on the field I bought. I've seen similar twisting of plain wire on one of my own horses who managed to find it in the field. Multiple creative bits of barbed wire caught in the wool of sheep. And a much, much worse injury on a friend's horse when she found barbed wire in her field and thought she'd ask her husband to clear it away next day, a day too late.

Can you imagine the state of the hands of the people reported to have committed this crime, unless they were wearing chain mail gloves? Is it really believable that they went out on a pitch dark winter at dead of night and took three horses across a forty acre field to do this? At least two of the of them, because one certainly couldn't have done it.

It's simply not conceivable to me that this was a deliberate act.
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I tend to agree with you. 2 colts and an old mare in an unfamiliar field having a right old jolly. My first thought was the colts have fought over the mare, all got caught in loose/discarded wire from farmers field spinning and arguing then a series of events landed them all in trouble. Mare probably already tired from fighting off 2 young boys when she went in the ditch.

Info in H&H article doesn't suggest to me that people were involved IMHO. I think the marks on the horses probably came from each other rather than being beaten. The now aggressive colt probably has all sorts of hormones running through his body.

Having 2 boisterous youngsters at home it never fails to surprise me what they get up to when your backs turned.

https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/new...left-to-die-in-ditch-unimaginable-evil-879434

Very unfortunate and I'm very sorry for the owner it must have been heart breaking.

 

[Sleighfarer]

While I agree that the turn of events seems unlikely, the owner is quoted as saying the gate was wired shut and had been cut, something the ponies would have been unable to do, so there may have been some foul play.

 

[dorsetladette]

While I agree that the turn of events seems unlikely, the owner is quoted as saying the gate was wired shut and had been cut, something the ponies would have been unable to do, so there may have been some foul play.

That's the only thing that swayed my thought process, but wire does degrade over time. It's not beyond the possibility that the youngsters had lent on the gate (grass always greener and all that) and the wire has snapped giving the horses enough space to push through a gap.

Or the colts (or one of) had cornered the mare and literally pushed her through it.

I just don't see the WHY behind someone just popping in a field and cutting the wire on a gate. unless the owner finds that property has been stolen and the thieves have left the gate open when leaving. But there is no mention of that.

I get that everyone wants to believe that their horses are perfect citizens but they do stupid stuff sometimes. One of mine managed to let himself into the chicken run and close the door behind himself. The roof was the same height as his wither so he couldnt even lift his head. God knows how he did it as the path to it is narrow with a 90 degree turn to get in through the door (I struggle to get him to bend round my leg). We had to dismantle it to get him out.

I mean obviously I could be completely wrong, but to me it just doesn't seem feasible.

 

[ycbm]

While I agree that the turn of events seems unlikely, the owner is quoted as saying the gate was wired shut and had been cut, something the ponies would have been unable to do, so there may have been some foul play.

Is there a picture of cut wire from the gate? She is reported as saying it has been wired up for a long time and wire breaks over time. Are there any pictures of the injuries from the barbed wire "halters"? I've not seen either so far.

I don't think it's possible to over estimate just how desperate this owner is going to be to believe that she isn't "guilty" of having insecure boundaries.
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[dorsetladette]

Is there a picture of cut wire from the gate? She is reported as saying it has been wired up for a long time and wire breaks over time. Are there any pictures of the injuries from the barbed wire "halters"? I've not seen either so far.

I don't think it's possible to over estimate just how desperate this owner is going to be to believe that she isn't "guilty" of having insecure boundaries.
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DELETED - felt insensitive.

 

[scats]

yes, they got out of their field, went into a farmers field and were found tangled in barbed wire. No one manged to wrap 3 ponies in barbed wire like that.

I hope to god this is what happened. Because my heart cannot take the thought that someone could do this.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

That's the only thing that swayed my thought process, but wire does degrade over time. It's not beyond the possibility that the youngsters had lent on the gate (grass always greener and all that) and the wire has snapped giving the horses enough space to push through a gap.

Or the colts (or one of) had cornered the mare and literally pushed her through it.

I just don't see the WHY behind someone just popping in a field and cutting the wire on a gate. unless the owner finds that property has been stolen and the thieves have left the gate open when leaving. But there is no mention of that.

I get that everyone wants to believe that their horses are perfect citizens but they do stupid stuff sometimes. One of mine managed to let himself into the chicken run and close the door behind himself. The roof was the same height as his wither so he couldnt even lift his head. God knows how he did it as the path to it is narrow with a 90 degree turn to get in through the door (I struggle to get him to bend round my leg). We had to dismantle it to get him out.

I mean obviously I could be completely wrong, but to me it just doesn't seem feasible.

We have found a 16.3hh Clydesdale mare and a 15.3hh cobby-built Appaloosa mare in the same stable in the morning, having been left, securely, as we thought, in adjoining stables the night before. Somehow they had managed to open the door between the 2 stables, into the Appy's box, and close the same door although without shooting the bolts with both horses in Appy's box. Not a mark on either of them, fortunately. And all walls intact. Their ingenuity knows no bounds

 

[Sleighfarer]

Is there a picture of cut wire from the gate? She is reported as saying it has been wired up for a long time and wire breaks over time. Are there any pictures of the injuries from the barbed wire "halters"? I've not seen either so far.

I don't think it's possible to over estimate just how desperate this owner is going to be to believe that she isn't "guilty" of having insecure boundaries.
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I don't know if there is a picture of the cut wire, the media will choose images most likely to pull in readers, but the wire being cut out of malice and the ponies escaping is a plausible scenario, whereas the rest of it isn't.

 

[Shadowmere]

While I agree that the turn of events seems unlikely, the owner is quoted as saying the gate was wired shut and had been cut, something the ponies would have been unable to do, so there may have been some foul play.

I wonder if it was an attempted theft, and the ponies have got spooked and run off, then got themselves into difficulty? That would certainly be more plausible I think. Either way, what a horrible thing for the poor ponies and owner.

 

[HorsesRule2009]

This is relatively local to me, and there's rather unsavoury people near hy who have been trying to purchase/ take over the land these ponies were occupying so unfortunately think it was deliberate to get the owner/ponies to leave so they can then have the land.

The unsavoury call themselves animal lovers bit often do anything to get what they want

 

[Mrs Jingle]

This is relatively local to me, and there's rather unsavoury people near hy who have been trying to purchase/ take over the land these ponies were occupying so unfortunately think it was deliberate to get the owner/ponies to leave so they can then have the land.

The unsavoury call themselves animal lovers bit often do anything to get what they want

So were they deliberately tied up in the barbed wire as claimed by the owner do you know?

 

[HorsesRule2009]

So were they deliberately tied up in the barbed wire as claimed by the owner do you know?

Yes as far as I'm aware.
And I wouldn't put it past the unsavories yo do it sadly

 

[Mrs Jingle]

That is just awful, those poor ponies and the owner.

 

[Lois Lame]

This is relatively local to me, and there's rather unsavoury people near hy who have been trying to purchase/ take over the land these ponies were occupying so unfortunately think it was deliberate to get the owner/ponies to leave so they can then have the land.

The unsavoury call themselves animal lovers bit often do anything to get what they want

In that case, I think it more likely that the people cut the wire around the gate, allowing the ponies to get out and get into difficulties.

So were they deliberately tied up in the barbed wire as claimed by the owner do you know?

No, they can't have been. It would be impossible to do so. Such people would have got mangled up in the mess themselves.

I did swallow the original post because I did not open the link. I assumed that the given story was true, for some reason.

 

[Nasicus]

I could imagine 'headcollars' and the twisting were due to them being caught up in some discarded barbed wire that the farmers had just tossed to the side whilst installing/repairing bits of fence. Perhaps looping/twisted them for ease of handling (because that stuff doesn't half fly about unpredictably when handling an unrolled, unattached line of it). I know I've found plenty of creative barbed wire art projects over the years when rooting through hedges and old fields.

I could definitely believe someone maliciously breaking open the gate though.

 

[JackFrost]

This is relatively local to me, and there's rather unsavoury people near hy who have been trying to purchase/ take over the land these ponies were occupying so unfortunately think it was deliberate to get the owner/ponies to leave so they can then have the land.

The unsavoury call themselves animal lovers bit often do anything to get what they want

This. I also know this area. It's not the first thing of this sort. Some weird stuff goes on. Sadly I doubt it will be the last.

 

[Jenko109]

Barbed wire is feral.

There isn't a man alive who could fashion a headcollar out of barbed wire without getting their hands mangled in the process.

Maybe Edward Scizzor Hands.