DEALER WAS A LITTLE BUCKER TODAY - PLEASE HELP

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went for a hack with my mate this morning, Not only did Dealer buck as we hit every track when i asked for trot but i put him in front to see if it would help and he did a masive buck lashing out at my freinds horse twice!
Back not long been done also saddle ect. YO thinks he needs a damn good gallop what do you think?
Bit worried as im not a great rider and i coped this morning with single ones but i think a series of them would ping me off!
Do you think
a) i should ignore it and hope it stops
b) get instrutor to take him and smack his bottom when he does it ( i would be too scared)
c) only walk him on hacks for a while
d) get someone to 'give him a good gallop - but would that just fizz him up for future hacks?
e) just cry and give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I am not familiar with any previous posts, so apologies if Im talking rubbish (I tend to do that!). If you've eliminated pain/discomfort, have you considered whether your feed choice is possibly responsible? I have a 5 yr old who Ive owned for maybe three months, so its still early days; he had a tendency to be silly/spooky and to put in the odd naughty buck or nap. I eliminated speedibeet from his diet a couple of weeks ago and there has been a marked improvement in his behaviour, especially hacking alone. Does he get plenty of turnout?
 
thanks Ethel-Rumpington - i too have only had him 3 months - he is only getting handfull of hi fi lit and coffee mug of quiet pencils once a day - he has turnout in a herd all day, stabled at night so i cant think it would be that! He is good in school which makes me think it isnt pain ect as he would do it in the school - and he isnt a baby he is 15 years !!!! I have just thought, i dont know when his teeth were done last - i know it will have been done regually by his previous owner but would that make a horse buck?
 
Ethel you do talk brilliant sense!

Feed's a good one to start on. Yes, get the instructor to if poss, go on these tracks and try to get him to do it, then give a good hard kick and slap if he does!

Is it possible when he does do one buck, for you to immediately give him a big kick, make him dash forward, really thump him (unless you have spurs on of course, in which case give him a hard poke!) That sends lots of energy into the back legs and makes it less likely that they can buck, as they are accelerating... Also hold his head up. If their head is up, they can't do a proper buck.

By the way, most riders, even quite good ones, come off in a series of bucks! Don't be hard on yourself!

Don't only walk on hacks for a while. Give him a bit more work and hacks if poss. Don't take him for "burn." He would benefit from civilised, correct work and a fair bit of it. If possible go into trot in a different place, make him trot nice and energetically, for ages. Kick if he bucks, walk onto the "buck" area. Then trot, do loads of transitions. if possible have a really round, rhythmic canter, for a long time and really make him work, nice and energetic behind, not at all fast. Make many transitions if you can't do a long canter. Get him to sweat his little butt off!

During all this you are smiling sweetly and butter wouldn't melt in your mouth! (It will in his!)
 
No teeth wouldn't do it.

You probably wont have too much of a problem if he isnt doing it in the school.

My horse will lash out and kick others if they are too near, i have just had to learn to live with it. It is horrible isn't it?

Not only that but we'd only had her 6 weeks when she chucked my daughter off and kicked her in the head. I am still reeling from that one!

We've had her 5 months. She seems lovely apart from that, easy to do, easy to load, school, etc. Spooky on hacks.

I does take ages and ages to get a horse accustomed to you and vice versa doesn't it? At least three months... some people have said one year at pony club... that's pushing it I guess.

Relax, he is nice on the school. You can always longe before you ride, you can spend a year woalking on the roads and really exercising in the arena if you really want to. It won't hurt the horse.
 
Thanks Aleeeee - I will try those methods - that all makes perfect sense - trouble is trying to remember when its happening - do you think he is trying his luck? Its about the time when most 'new' horses have got thier feet under the table and see what their humans are made of?
 
I ride a friends little pony that is about 15/16 and hes a bucker. He does it when hes jumping and when hacking out if he gets over excited. I think especially at this time of year, with a little nip in the air ponies can get a bit full of themselves, especially if hes with company hes not used to?
The pony that I ride has thrown my friend off a couple of times, and was particularly bad when hunting-she asked for trot and he just dumped her. Try not to worry too much, Im sure its just a combination of testing the water and the time of year.
Edited to say-he did it with me at a show once. We just entered the ring and a train went past the show field and he nearly had me off. He then went on to jump a clear round?!
 
I should think he is flexing his muscles a bit, but having said that I don't believe horses think like that.

A mare is dominant and will try, more than likely on the ground, to check who is boss and you have to make sure it is you! With a gelding, they are dominated by mares (well, males are anyhow!) so, he will whilst on the ground, require a leader.

Should you not be dominant, i.e. fussing around, not making decisions very quickly, step back when he moves towards you, hesitate to buckle, tie, saddle up, groom, etc he will feel afraid because SHOCK HORROR" he may have to take the lead, for which he is wholly unequipped and incapable, hence, he will go to pieces and most certainly succumb to either starvation, or death by that lion waiting in the bushes!!! (In his mind!) So be gently but very firmly in charge, be pushy and be calm.

When you are on top, it is a bit different. he will feel alone. Since he is well used to being ridden, he will be awaiting your commands fine. So, make loads of commands/aids. The more you give aids, transitions, make him think, work, act, every time you give an aid, expect and insist on a response, the less he will think (which is a bad thing!)
 
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I just looked at your details....LOL

Tee hee! "Wine taster", I am so barmy and old and mind addled, that I thought that read "time waster" for a start!

Honestly I really think I am getting alzheimer's disease. it runs in my family.
 
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