Dealers in Ireland

ycbm said:
Good. I am glad you think so. I hope her business prospers, it's a tough time for Irish dealers with the lower value of the pound.
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Shows how little you really know the US market is so much more important than the UK at the moment and you would be up against the US buyers who have deep pockets and love Irish bred horses.
 
popsdosh said:
Shows how little you really know the US market is so much more important than the UK at the moment and you would be up against the US buyers who have deep pockets and love Irish bred horses.
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That's fine PD, I was only going on what IG has previously said on the forum. I'm very happy for her if the US market is buoyant and she is able to introduce US buyers to Irish breeders.
 
If I wanted a horse from Ireland....I'd go to IG on the basis of this thread. She sounds as though she would do her best to match exactly what the buyer wants...which is what you want from an agent.
 
Irishgal you have my sympathy........deal always with the punter and not the intermediary. Sooo much can get lost in the communication - or lack thereof - as well as in the commission.

Also, methinks the lady do protest too much.....as in, 'don't do facebook'?? Really? You certainly have a facebook page so you have the means to view the various pages that people have posted links to WITHOUT putting them to the trouble of cutting and pasting material for you to view.

Also, in my limited experience, using different agents, whilst yards of potential competition horses can be produced, to find an honest, genuine lower level type you need to travel to the individual farmer/breeder if you are sub 10k as far as budget goes. So much depends on where your emphasis is: the successful advanced dressage horse at local level, at regional level or at national level? Price varies. Also, how important is the jumping? Again, at what level? Clear round locally, affiliated or what?

From what I have read I think the buyer needs to prioritise their requirements...........it has been mentioned they wish to do advanced level dressage AND 80/90cm jumping (not TOTALLY unreasonable, depending on how competitive you are) BUT that a sports connie is deemed too forwards. I certainly am getting mixed messages and don't blame Irishgal at all for bowing out.
 
Every single person who has responded since ycbms big reveal has thought her behaviour about this trip was out of line. Thankfully you can all read, just like me, and could see what I did - that this was all about her and not her friend. Recipe for an absolute disaster of a buying trip - for the buyer, for me and for the producers - but not of course for the friend who has been on a great jolly in Ireland!

I don't feel in the slightest damaged ycbm I just feel supported by Wheels, FW, Popsdosh, Druid, TP and anyone else who has posted since your PM disclosure. And indeed anyone who reads this in the future as it's all there in black and white.

This is a seller's market ycbm, as you will learn if you come here. I know all the dealers who have been recommended here and you will find out how just like me they don't tolerate grand standing, pompous and egotistical behaviour. Our horses are just too good, too in demand worldwide and you know what - life is just too short to be putting up with that sort of nonsense!

Good luck with your search - although if this is the level of agro involved in the enquiry stage - I cannot see it being fruitful.
 
cobgoblin said:
If I wanted a horse from Ireland....I'd go to IG on the basis of this thread. She sounds as though she would do her best to match exactly what the buyer wants...which is what you want from an agent.
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Great, I'm glad it helped her. Fully admit I misunderstood her business model badly.


PS but want to add that the spec I gave her was given to me in writing by the prospective buyer, so the result could have been a good one if we had not got our wires crossed.
 
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ycbm said:
Great, I'm glad it helped her. Fully admit I misunderstood her business model badly.


PS but want to add that the spec I gave her was given to me in writing by the prospective buyer, so the result could have been a good one if we had not got our wires crossed.
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The spec you gave her was to pop a cross pole. Now its to jump courses at 80 and 90cms so it seems something is being lost in translation.

And you havent misunderstood her business model, you've just misunderstood how desperate she is for your business.
 
Leo Walker said:
The spec you gave her was to pop a cross pole. Now its to jump courses at 80 and 90cms so it seems something is being lost in translation.

And you havent misunderstood her business model, you've just misunderstood how desperate she is for your business.
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Both probably FW. We all make mistakes :)

My friend is perfectly capable of teaching a horse which willingly pops a cross pole to jump an 80/90 course. That obviously got lost in translation.
 
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Leo Walker said:
by the way, if you dont do Facebook, then there is someone using your name and photos on there, so you might want to check that out.
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I have an account to have a laugh at the updates from some specific users. What is this, a 'who uses Facebook or not' competition??? I never post, never check messages, or send any. There is no rule that I have to look for horses for sale on it, is there? Quite apart from the fact that it has no relevance whatsoever to the question I asked on this thread.

There are plenty of people my age who hate Facebook with a vengeance. It can be pure evil, like any social media. I don't play there. This place is bad enough :D
 
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This is such a load of c**p over nothing!

Someone wants to buy a horse and someone is in the business of arranging sales....usually that would be a pretty compatible arrangement! But on here...NO!...it turns into flippin' argument!
And the person who wants to buy isn't even party to it! ....ITS UNBELIEVABLE.
 
cobgoblin said:
This is such a load of c**p over nothing!

Someone wants to buy a horse and someone is in the business of arranging sales....usually that would be a pretty compatible arrangement! But on here...NO!...it turns into flippin' argument!
And the person who wants to buy isn't even party to it! ....ITS UNBELIEVABLE.
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Spot on :D. Only on HHO!
 
Snitch said:
Hardly fun when you are picking fights and being rude to people. It's not pleasant to witness or indeed be on the receiving end.
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Not pleasant to witness?

So stop opening the thread?

How exactly does one 'pick fights' by responding to people who voluntarily posted on a thread you started?
 
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ycbm said:
Are any/all of you big enough to end this thread with me wishing IG the very best for her business?
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I'm sure everyone wishes IG the very best with her business....and now that the drama is over and the air cleared, perhaps you should ask your friend if she wants to phone her?
 
cobgoblin said:
I'm sure everyone wishes IG the very best with her business....and now that the drama is over and the air cleared, perhaps you should ask your friend if she wants to phone her?
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She'll phone her if she wants, I don't control her. The thought is hilarious, she's a VERY strong character! She was going to call tomorrow, but she's now aware of this 'exchange' which IG could have stayed out of if she had simply left this thread alone and not dissed other people's suggestions. I doubt the call will be made, knowing my friend extremely well, I think the buyer and intermediary are incompatible. It is probably just as well that neither wasted their time.


IG, I wish you the absolute best with your business.
 
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Sorry, but I haven't seen IG dissing other people's suggestions...just giving advice on a market that she obviously knows well.

I don't blame her for wanting instruction from the buyer before she actually does anything....many the slip twixt cup and lip.
 
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