Dear dog owners that like their dog to go off lead...

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A very sensible trainer said that she likes her dogs to be 'dog neutral'. She doesn't want her dogs to be friendly with others and doesn't think it's necessary to socialise them constantly as puppies. I see what she means and I'm happy that Bear and Brig are neutral.

It's such a shame that Zak was attacked as a baby and I think I should have socialised him madly then. I do wish other owners would have the brain to control their over enthusiastic dogs. :rolleyes3:
 

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WHAT is wrong with people?
Do we have a subspecies who are so stupid that they have no sense of self preservation?
Cayla, please come and sort them out!
I'd pay good money to see you in action!
Oz :)

Yes we do, it's because we as a nation insist on protecting, providing for and enabling the moronic & incompetent, resulting in a spoilt self entitled generation of a*** ****s. It's a reversal of the laws of nature.
I thought it was just me that thought a lot of dog walkers were muppets, apparently not :D
 

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Yes we do, it's because we as a nation insist on protecting, providing for and enabling the moronic & incompetent, resulting in a spoilt self entitled generation of a*** ****s. It's a reversal of the laws of nature.
I thought it was just me that thought a lot of dog walkers were muppets, apparently not :D

Beautifully and accurately written!
 

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Interesting........I saw this thread yesterday and thought that sooner or later it would go the way that all similar threads on this topic appear to of late - so am very pleased it hasn't. :D

As I have stated before, all my dogs are friendly and well socialised. However, I do not need a random selection of out of control mutts testing their socialisation skills to the extreme. I now have a couple of oldies who are very happy to still do a meet and greet IF you really must let your dog come over and IF it trots over in a calm fashion. The oldies are arthritic and have various lumps and bumps so IF your out of control hooligan bumps into them/jumps on them/paw thwacks them or owt else IT HURTS THEM and I think too much of my dogs to allow that to happen. I can do a very good 'wrath of God' impersonation, as can one of my other bitches who is now the oldies self-appointed protector. She is a very good judge of character and engages with teenagers, distracting them from the oldies, or if necessary seeing any undesirables off in no uncertain manner.
 

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Dog neutral is a good expression, mine all ignore other dogs on walks, unless as GG says they come over politely and quietly. Puppy can't altogether be trusted not to get overexcited but she does an excelelnt sit and stay.
 

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My little JR waa attacked by a lurcher :( I tried to get him off, in the end I had to kick the dog off him ) He hates other dogs so he's always on a lead

He ended up at the vets with a hole in his side :(

The lady with the lurcher thought it was funny...........well she did until she got my bill!

Our Cairn is petrified of dogs coming up to her so I end up having to pick her up a lot of the time. Makes me so cross, all people say is " they only want to play" or " the're friendly really!"
 

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CT my lab is also neutral- unless he sees dogs that he knows (by that I mean good friends who we walk with regularly) he will run to them but only them.
If he sees other dogs on his walk he just looks across and then carries on when he realises he doesn't know them- he is friendly and if others come to him it doesn't bother me as he just has a quick sniff and carries on. He is also very aware of dogs body language and if he sees a dog he doesn't like the look of- potentially aggressive etc he just gives a wide berth to them. I totally agree about not overly socialising as pups.
 
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Its very sad that on looking at dog rescue sites, which are mostly are trying to rehome staffies, they nearly all say dog needs basic training and must be only dog and these are often older dogs not puppies . It should be much harder for people to own dogs I feel, perhaps they should have to have dog owning lessons and wear an L plate until they've passed.
 

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I have a Lakeland too! The manual said they reward owners with patience...mine definitely lives up to that! First 4 years he was on the lead only; far too naughty to let off. The next 6 years he was allowed off the lead because he would come back if called (except when chasing rabbits but that didn't affect other people, just the bunnies!), then the past 4 years he's back on the lead again most of the time, either due to genuine deafness or selective hearing :D How he got his gold kennel club award is beyond me ;)


My older Lakeland had her Gold before she was 12 months old. The younger one is a hopeless case I'm afraid but totally adorable
 

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Its very sad that on looking at dog rescue sites, which are mostly are trying to rehome staffies, they nearly all say dog needs basic training and must be only dog and these are often older dogs not puppies . It should be much harder for people to own dogs I feel, perhaps they should have to have dog owning lessons and wear an L plate until they've passed.

This makes me so cross, for private homes they are making their dogs virtually unrehomable,when rescues do this then I always think this is unforgiveable, surely they can work with that dog and change it as that dog will have to spend forever in a kennel waiting for that illusive home.
 

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i hate people with unneutered males who are off the lead and out of control.if one of my bitches is in season they get walked on lead early in morning or stay at home.but when i walk out of season bitches together on leads im met with abuse from few locals who have 'randy' out of control unneutered males.theres a flat coated retriever on a flexi lead that pulls the woman mid air across the playing fields and a mouthy unemployed toothless skinny piece with glasses with a horny jack russell.do my head in.ive been bondaged in a flexi lead and had a chain coupling embossed across my mouth with half a white poodle pressing down on me cos of this hormaonal out of control dogs.
 

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I appreciated the fact that my husky was mostly dog-neutral, made it very easy to take him out riding with me as he cared only about my mare. But when he got older, blind and arthritic it used to drive me absolutely mad that people wouldn't control their dogs. Worst was when I was very clearly injured, walking slowly with a cane with my very slow arthritic blind dog and some ass let his dog come bounding up to me nearly knocking us both down. When I was fully mobile I would always get between them and tell the other dog "no" very loudly and pointing away from me. Then I'd yell at the owners. Usually worked.

Years ago there was a dalmatian in our neighborhood who was extremely aggressive and would attack any dog it saw. It came after my sister walking our collie (always on lead), so we took to walking with a crop. I know it's horrid, and I don't sanction hitting animals but if it's a choice between that or getting bitten...
 

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I always make a point of calling my dog back if I see someone's dog on a lead. I presume it's on a lead for a reason and would not want my dog saying hello. Common sense and common courtesy really.
 

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The one thing that absolutely drives me to distraction is people asking me if my bitch (spayed at the earliest vet recommended time) is in season!! It absolutely infuriates me that people can't stop their dogs attempting to hump my poor lab, and also the thinking that I would be imbeclic enough to take a bitch in season out in the park at a busy time! And the same people ask me again and again! My old lab had to be put down albeit at 14 for arthiritic hips so I really cannot abide big dogs attermpting to mount my girl.
Cayla you can come for a walk with me too! My dog walks beautifully to heel but actually runs away from the out of control off lead dogs trying to mount her.
 
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The one thing that absolutely drives me to distraction is people asking me if my bitch (spayed at the earliest vet recommended time) is in season!! It absolutely infuriates me that people can't stop their dogs attempting to hump my poor lab, and also the thinking that I would be imbeclic enough to take a bitch in season out in the park at a busy time! And the same people ask me again and again! My old lab had to be put down albeit at 14 for arthiritic hips so I really cannot abide big dogs attermpting to mount my girl.
Cayla you can come for a walk with me too!

A couple walking a randy golden retriever who was insisting on humping my MALE (neutered) Jack Russell asked me if my dog was in season!
 

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My dog was attacked by a offlead dog about a month ago on one of our usual walks. As soon as it saw us it came charging towards us. Horrible scary experience.

After much swearing from me, and the owner giving his dog a good kicking, he apologized profusely but said he needs to let him off lead so he takes him up to these trails because it's quiet - it's a blooming popular dog walking spot! Told him his aggressive dog should not be off lead at all. He agreed and apologised again.

Anyway saw the idiot and his aggressive off lead dog again tonight. I was clearly paying more attention than him as I managed to change direction and get out the way. 30 seconds later, owner spotted us and scrambled around to get his dog on the lead. 5 secs later the dog spotted us...

Some people are just morons.
 

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It seems to be getting far worse-I really can't recall many incidents at all involving out of control dogs in my youth whereas a week or so ago my poor daughter was subject to 3 dogs bolting up behind her all aggressive-snapping/growling-pony bolts nearly to road & when owner quite some time later attempts to retrieve them says she didn't expect to see a horse there-ie on a bridle way!!!! Why do people let their dogs get well out of their sight esp given they've got sod all control!
Also used to infuriate me when both my children were younger about 2/3 yrs old-having dogs fly up to them & owners telling me they love children! I'm sorry get your out of control dog away from my child-your behaviour is enough to put them off dogs for life & is probably the equivalent of an adult being charged by a bull elephant!!
 

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Really irritates me. I was stood in my front door heavily pregnant last summer and someone was walking past with their dog off lead. Said dog spotted my cat in the front garden and ran straight after him, nearly sweeping my legs under me as my cat ran past me into the house - the dog actually tried to run into my house and goodness knows the outcome had I not have grabbed it's collar as it pushed past me. The owner was barely even sorry and didn't even look concerned. Had that dog have hurt my cat, or my unborn baby then I would have given them a lot more to worry about, but at the time I didn't have the energy to even say much to her.
 
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