silversprings
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I am afraid I agree with amymay.
Decided to try and send horse back- where do I stand
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I am afraid I agree with amymay.
poiuytrewq
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I've had him 7 weeks today.
Totally agree just because he's reared in hand doesn't mean he will ridden. I have another who stands up before loading. He's never done it ridden.
They are absolutely not dealers. I've got paperwork such as the fitting receipt from his saddle dated 2010 and have seen a few photos dated years back.
Health and stiffness wise he's been better than I'd expect of an older teenager certainly not one in his mid 20's. He appears great in that respect. My back lady was really quite impressed with his mobility.
I've now got a contact number for the actual owner as opposed to the lady I've been dealing with as she says I've upset and offended her. I honestly had no intention of either.
Totally agree just because he's reared in hand doesn't mean he will ridden. I have another who stands up before loading. He's never done it ridden.
They are absolutely not dealers. I've got paperwork such as the fitting receipt from his saddle dated 2010 and have seen a few photos dated years back.
Health and stiffness wise he's been better than I'd expect of an older teenager certainly not one in his mid 20's. He appears great in that respect. My back lady was really quite impressed with his mobility.
I've now got a contact number for the actual owner as opposed to the lady I've been dealing with as she says I've upset and offended her. I honestly had no intention of either.
poiuytrewq
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Can't leave him barefoot. He has flat and pretty bad feet.
Besides he's still going to need trimming and unsedated last time that would have been impossible
Besides he's still going to need trimming and unsedated last time that would have been impossible
planete
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Older horses can need much more considerate handling of their feet and legs when being shod than younger ones as their joints are less supple and they can find keeping a foot high up or at an awkward angle for any length of time very uncomfortable. I do stretching exercises with my horse and a bit of gentle lunging before a farrier visit nowadays. Some farriers use lower hoof stands for older horses as well. Could any of this help with shoeing?
SatansLittleHelper
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Just this is enough to ring alarms bells to me!!!
Why were you not dealing with the owner in the first instance?? (Not your fault but it's sounds suss to me unless on sales livery...but for a £500 horse?!)
Why is she "upset and offended"?? Sounds to me they knew exactly what he is like.
I hope you can sort things with him. X
poiuytrewq
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I don't know why she was offended. I've shown what I wrote to other people who agree it's completely inoffensive and I don't even sound annoyed. I purposely kept a friendly tone.
No, originally it seemed ok. The owner was there in the viewing and told me about him/answered questions along with his friend/fellow livery. She had advertised him and it was her I contacted. She took me out hacking and we talked about the horse all the way. She's then just been the one who replied to any questions not him (real owner)
It became odd to me at that point I admit.
Planete, totally understand that. My now retired horse needs a bit of bute before shoeing else he won't stand to have his hinds shod. He is truly the best mannered horse but is stiff and being shod is un comfortable for him. If I sold him which I absolutely never would I would say 100% to shoe if given a few butes before or difficult to shoe behind not "good to shoe"
Not saying that's not the problem but either way it's not truthful.
All my farrier managed was to remove one front shoe though before he started rearing and lunging
No, originally it seemed ok. The owner was there in the viewing and told me about him/answered questions along with his friend/fellow livery. She had advertised him and it was her I contacted. She took me out hacking and we talked about the horse all the way. She's then just been the one who replied to any questions not him (real owner)
It became odd to me at that point I admit.
Planete, totally understand that. My now retired horse needs a bit of bute before shoeing else he won't stand to have his hinds shod. He is truly the best mannered horse but is stiff and being shod is un comfortable for him. If I sold him which I absolutely never would I would say 100% to shoe if given a few butes before or difficult to shoe behind not "good to shoe"
Not saying that's not the problem but either way it's not truthful.
All my farrier managed was to remove one front shoe though before he started rearing and lunging
MagicMelon
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Does the horse pick its feet up ok for you? I'd personally make the horse unshod, tough if he has rubbish feet - hopefully they'll harden up especially if you gave him some decent hoof supplement. If it causes so much drama shoeing him then I definately wouldn't do it. I'd also speak to the owner and tell them your problems, see what they say. If they genuinely love the horse and wanted the best for him, they might well take him back... if not, well they probably just wanted rid... £500 is pricey for a 25yo horse! I'd get my own vet out to look at his teeth and if he judges the horse to be 25, report this to who you bought him from which would be grounds for sending him back I would expect.
I wouldn't be too worried straight away by the fact the friend seemed to answer all the questions, it might be that the friend was the one who dealt with the horse most for example on a day to day basis?
I wouldn't be too worried straight away by the fact the friend seemed to answer all the questions, it might be that the friend was the one who dealt with the horse most for example on a day to day basis?
ester
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I'm not sure I'd force a potentially 25 yo horse with other possible issues to go through additional discomfort to go unshod right now.
I have no idea why she would be offended!? Essentially he isn't happy, he clearly did have previous issues that perhaps with time had diminished with his previous owner. She either likes him enough to have him back where he will be happier or you will consider PTS.
I have no idea why she would be offended!? Essentially he isn't happy, he clearly did have previous issues that perhaps with time had diminished with his previous owner. She either likes him enough to have him back where he will be happier or you will consider PTS.
Fun Times
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The "I'm too offended to speak with you" line is just a pure evasion in my view in hopes that you clear off and leave her alone. I once had dealings with a company that was being put into liquidation and their staff were told that everyone who rang up for a refund were to be told "you are being aggressive so I am terminating this communication" no matter how reasonable and polite the caller was being. It does seem odd that this other person took over the sale (but then I bought my horse via a lady who was just the owners friend, so maybe it is legit).