Define a green pony/horse

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For example I am selling a young pony who is rising 4 and its hard to find a target market.
For example, he is beautifully schooled, goes off the seat and weight cues, stops immediately from his hind quarters by weight shift and leg forward on a voice command or shift back of seat aid
works in beautiful outline, does some nice lateral work, turn on forehand, and knows a few tricks.
He is such a pleasure to ride and more advanced in schooling than some 8 year olds or older horses.
For example today i rode him bridleless which he took to straight away and I was cantering and turning without reins because he is seat responsive and trained it was just a natural progression.
Now I have realsied that he is a joy for an experienced rider but is baffled by childrens aids, kicking and flapping. He tries his best and no matter if they pull him he would not dream of harming a hair on their heads and puts up with it all. Yes he lacks life experience, he jumps a course of jumps but would I describe him as green when his schooling is lovely.
What do you think? And define green....
 
With reference to green that is open to opinion, I would say our rising eight yo is green because he occasionally gets the wrong canter lead, and he is sharp and wouldn't be suitable for an inexperienced rider. My own horse was 11 when I got her, and I would say that she was very green in the arena, but now working at Elementary I would say she is no longer green. Your pony is green to due age, time and more experience will change this.
 
I think your pony is not what I would describe as green, for his age he is probably far more advanced than most, he will not have the miles on the clock but has had a good start and is ready to go on and do more, taking his age into account obviously.
The issue you will have is finding a child of the correct age that is advanced enough to be able to ride him as an adult does, the way you have schooled him is probably too sophisticated for most children to either be able to or want to, ride in the same way.
I produce ponies for sale and use teenagers to do as much as possible, they ride well enough to be correct and give them clear aids but are not so far away from the child that is most likely to purchase the pony for it to cause problems when trying the pony. It can be a fine line between doing the job well enough and doing things too well.
If he was mine I would find a capable young rider to do a little with him now, take him to a few rallies and expose him to a bit of the PC world it could make that next step a little easier for him and also get him seen out and about, Easter hols are a good time to sell.
 
Thanks for your replies, much appreciated.
Pony is 13.1 1/2 lightweight gelding.
I have had him a year now and put my heart into him as I am a secret pony squisher!
The lady I brought him from has a small 11 year old daughter and she adored him and rode him beautifully. They sold him to me unbroken and mum regretted it and wished they had sent him away as he was meant for the daughters second pony. However people dont know how a pony can turn out and it all depends on trainer.
Just seems that if he was a kick along pull along little coblet he would have more value than a trained creature.
Does not help that I have only half decent photos due to OH having no ide of what to capture.
 
Part of the problem with selling any young pony at a good price to a decent home is that either the people can afford to buy a proven schoolmaster type and that is what they will go for or they are prepared to bring one on themselves and spend less on the initial purchase.

I sold a lovely 13.1 5 year old a few years ago to a child of 8, they came to try an older been there and done it pony but he was too wily and they bought the young one much to their surprise. It worked out really well, the pony has exceeded all expectations and is now outgrown and up for sale at over 3x the price they paid for him, he was not cheap then as I made £2k profit.

The right people will come along for yours but it may take a while.
 
I know exactly what you are saying. I echo it too.
People with cash will buy a school master for 5k and people who lack experience will attract to a pony with a low price tag.
Experienced ones will pick up cheap nice animal and have ability to school themselves.
It really is not about the money though I would love to see a child or small adult just enjoy the feeling of riding him and using his brain like I do..
I school ponies myself for other people and buy and train 2 or 3 a year. I rarely make a profit but it just pays me back so I can afford running costs of horse.
Im far from rich lol..
Are there any NH sales websites. Would he be appreciated moore on this market?
 
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