DEFRA really know how to p*ss the farmers off.

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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I've had a quick look but haven't seen it.

DEFRA have sent the infected cattle 100miles across the country because they say the mobile incinerator are too expensive to send to the farm. Never mind the millions it will cost the farmers if this thing spreads.
The are trying to reassure us that the transport is air tight and secure but they have told us that before, when we had an anthrax outbreak, the blood was dripping from the trucks as they drove past, so you can see why we ain't buying it!
 
totally agree - as somerset is the poor county where the incinerator is located for the surrey outbreak - sympathy to you

but the real solution is to vaccinate and just get on with life

the muppets in the supermarkets buy crap chicken with all sorts of additives, crap pork similarly contaminated so feeding animals vaccinated against f&m won't make a jot of difference after 3 months or so

after all - bernard matthews sales went down for a while but they are now right back up to normal - his bootiful turkey is rippling off the shelves just the same as before

the public have short and convenient memories

vaccinated beef - yeah for a month they'll avoid it and then they'll want burgers for the barbie and sales will pick up

people are a fickle bunch but F&m doesn't kill the animals and esp. in sheep it is a minor irritation as sheep really don't show many symptoms at all
 
"Air-tight transport"... well wasn't the research facility this stuff supposedly leaked from meant to be "air-tight" and totally secure? Defra will not be very popular if this turns up in Somerset now then! And it'll cost them a hell of a lot more than a lot of money if it does!
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it'll cost them b-awl as all they'll pay is x quid per animal

they don't pay - unlike the rail disasters - for the distress, loss of earnings, mental health, physical health, destruction of business etc etc etc

a cow is a cow and it's worth x quid according to whichever 'agricultural expert' like Humberts or whoever sets the value

total joke and this time round - now we've got PROOF that it's pirbright as they are the only ones with this variant of the virus - they should compensate and compensate

if you look at warmwell.com you'll see the opposing views to gov. spin and the real story behind the gov. experiments at Newcastle led by David Kelly of WMD fame into F&M and the fact that the pig farmer in N'humberland was getting his source for the swill from newcastle uni where david kelly was conducting his experiments.....

so the gov. was also probably responsible for the 2001 outbreak courtesy of playing with F&M virus

oh for the FOI act and an investigative reporter with time to go thru this

now what is the name of that guy that got sacked....the reporter..
 
goto warmwell.com and you'll get plenty of ammo for an article on F&M - all the stuff the gov. doesn't tell us

and it's updated multiple times each day so worth watching - and it gets feeds from normal people 'in the know'
 
it is very intersting

also have a look at this article from the Newcastle Chronicle

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/f8.html

David Kelly of WMD was in charge of some F&M research at the research farm at N'castle Uni in 2001 and the pig farmer that was blamed for the 2001 outbreak was getting the stuff for his swill from N'castle Uni - but this was covered up in court

so the gov. could be responsible for both the 2001 outbreak and this one

in 2001 the strain of fmd was 'in the wild' so it was easy to blame the farmers

this time the strain is NOT in the wild as it is the 1967 strain and therefore only availabe at Pirbright - so the gov. cannot wriggle out of this one as the source - just are trying to blame 'flooding' rather than a breakdown in biosecurity or carelessness or building work or whatever

anyway - it appears that in neither case were the farmers to blame - except that we carry the can for gov. incompetence
 
my partner worked for defra for 6 years and said they are absolutel t*sse*s and when youre moving dead animals there is no way you can stop leakage ever no matter what they say. gross.
 
All livestock keepers need compensation, at the moment livestock is a liability, overnight our income was stopped through no fault of our own, and the hunt won't accept a dead animal if one dies what do we do with it?
 
Remember last time when that calf survived the cull on that farm...

I had it first hand from vets associated with it, that no way could that calf have survived as long as it supposedly did unless someone was feeding and watering it. DEFRA wanted it dead and wanted the vets to ensure it had an accident.

Funny how they can make sure Shambo got the bullet but an FMD calf was allowed to survive...

I've always said DEFRA stood for the Department for the Elimination of Farming and Rural Affairs
 
Some of us down here in Somerset are not best pleased I can tell you.

DEFRA is trying to deny all knowledge and rumour has it that the so called secure container which delivered these cows was, in fact, a metal grain wagon with a tarpaulin lashed over the top. Not exactly secure for the 90 mile trip from Surrey.
 
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Some of us down here in Somerset are not best pleased I can tell you.

DEFRA is trying to deny all knowledge and rumour has it that the so called secure container which delivered these cows was, in fact, a metal grain wagon with a tarpaulin lashed over the top. Not exactly secure for the 90 mile trip from Surrey.

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not only do i agree, spans...but i passed one yesterday turning into the rendering plant...it was a "globetrotter" grain carrier...with a red tarpauling thrown over....NOT a sealed unit at all...tossers!!!
 
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