Dental question and what to do????

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My horse was being a cow for my instructor yesterday so he put his hand in her mouth and her teeth were sharp, so she is a complete cow to deal with her mouth so I called the vet, who does dental work, as she needs sedating. he came today and said all though her teeth were a bit sharp, she has ulcers on the bars of her mouth and all over her cheeks. he has told me to not put a bit in for 5 days and in a ideal world she needs her mouth washed out with salt water, no way thats going to happen.

Ive never used a hackamore would it be a bad idea to try one and which one is really gental.

Thanks bloody horses
 
Bloody horses? It's not her fault her teeth are sharp!

An english hackamore is less harsh that a german one if that's any help?
 
Get a proper dentist and long rein your horse in the meantime. What is the point in attending a clinic if your poor horse is in such discomfort it can't aattempt the exercises and resents you for asking it to try?

I don't get how the teeth got sharp without you noticing or already having the dental routine in hand?
 
Thats not the most helpfull answer I was aking for advice, the vet said she is fine, he has been trained in doing teeth, and she has to be heavily sedated to have her teeth done so a denist cant really do them. They were only a little sharp and he thinks she has stuck her head in a thorn bush, not the teeth causing the ulcers.

She is not in a major amount of discomfort, and will be fine by next friday and if she wasnt completly happy then I wouldnt take her.
 
re the washing out with salt water. why dont you get a large syringe & fill that with saltwater then squirt a few times either side? you will get wet! but its an easy way of doing it a vet told me when mine had a wolf tooth out
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have you thought about adding a bit of minty mouth wash to the salt waterr either that or just using mouth wash. When my mare fracture her tooth I had to battle rinsing her mouth out. She hates being wormed so took that i was going to worm her. when she realised it was minty she loved having the diluted mouth wash squirted into her mouth. Just an idea for you
 
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re the washing out with salt water. why dont you get a large syringe & fill that with saltwater then squirt a few times either side? you will get wet! but its an easy way of doing it a vet told me when mine had a wolf tooth out
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Ditto this. My first loan horse had some lacerations from sharp teeth so I used this - he actually liked it!!! They also cleared very quickly.

Could you give her a few days off and then see how she goes - you can still go for your lesson then hopefully and just explain that you need to take it easy??

Hope it all sorts out quickly for you.
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My YO used a turkey baster to rinse her horses mouth with salt water when he cracked a tooth. It worked really well and they're not expensive to buy. Might be worth a try.
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We have used the mouthwash and syringe idea. I don't really understand why you are considering using a hackamore. If your lesson is more than 5 days away, then there should be no problem using your usual bit. If the lesson is less than 5 days away, then take your vet's advice and ask if you can postpone. I would think that you would get more from the lesson using tack that you are both familiar with, than making a radical change just before it.
 
Hmmmm... tough one, could try a hackamore but if the lesson is that important I wouldn't want to start messing around with tack I wasn't 100% confident with. On the other hand if her mouth is that bad and you are planning to use a hackamore longer term then maybe you could use the lesson to learn how to ride in a hackamore. I'm just thinking out loud here...
 
i use a proper trained equine dentist who has to undo a lot of damage that has been created by vets who have raspped teeth but dont do a very good job. mainly because thay arent properly trained in that area like an equine dentist is, plus they are not regulated by any board or retested throughout their career. he has never had to sedate a horse unless doing drilling work or extractions - vets sedate cos they can!!! he works with the most frightned of horses and is just amazing. anyone thinking of getting a dentist out, then go on the official website to check out who is registered on the BAEDT - the Brittish Association of Equine Dentist Technichians. ONLY USE DENTISTS FROM THIS LIST if you require the best for your horse. they are usually cheaper and spend time with you and your horse. i can recomend 2 dentists - one from the north and one from the south.
 
world wide association equine dentists they are the only other one with defra approved exams the same as the baedt.even though none of them are actually law yet. there is good and bad in all dentists weather qualified or not,the usa throws out some fantastic dentists also...... and i dont see how people only using these dentist would work...there is only just over 100 on both lists combined,,divide these by the number of horses in the uk!!!! it just dousnt add up.also you need 300 case files to sit the exam and if you arnt supposed to use dentists who havent passed how to thoses intending to sit the exam get the cases??? the whole industry is a mess and will still be the same in 10 years as far as i can see....best to use someone you have confidence in or have been recomended,letters after your name do not always mean the best as standards and quality of work change some for the better and others for the worst........everyone says there is bad farriers as well as good yet all passed there exams!!!!! passing the dental exam only means you met the required standard on that horse on that day only..im not saying the exams are rubbish ect far from it and everyone should work towards them but its a bad blanket to throw over everyone by saying dont use anyone who hasnt passed,,,my opinion only though and that counts for nothing,,,,,,,

all the best
chris
(p.s) did i read the original post correct when the vet said the horse had stuck his head in a thorn bush!!!! hahahahaha made me giggle
 
I agree with this gentleman Chris. There is one qualified 'older dentist' in our area who himself admits things have moved on since the examinations first came out and when he sat them so just becuase they are qualified does not mean they are necessarily good. Equally vets usually only do a very short amount of practical work whilst studying to become a vet hence they usually rock up and have about three rasps unlike good dentists who have quite an a ray to be able to do a good job. It also takes doing teeth all the time to strengthen your arms and get the right techniques, cant see for one minute how a vet can manage that unless thats all they do for their practice! A good dentist does not in most cases need to sedate, agree with the sentiments that vets do it because they can! My dentist went to a yard to do a set of teeth and there was a vet there doing another clients horse, they chatted and she said her and her vet colleague were going on to do a large yard after that (note it we nearing midday btw) and they were going to do 24 horses between them - how on earth would that be possible, they had to get there and would be finished by latest 6pm - well Id like to see anyone do a good job - 12 horses each in less than 6 hours, to do a good set of teeth should take around 45 mins to an hour! To me the biggest tell tale is if they do not use a spec, without this you cannot adequately reach the far back teeth. I feel you should use dentists who are recommended to you and provide you a good service. This not only includes not charging the earth but also letting you feel the work before and after they have done the teeth. My dentist also provides me with a record sheet detailing all the work done and what may need doing another time. MOst importantly it is your responsiblity to ensure you stick to your 6 monthly checks as little and often is far better for your horse than having to have lots done under sedation because of neglect, besides the checkups pay for themselves in well eaten forage and feed, ie they get the most out of it!
 
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so just becuase they are qualified does not mean they are necessarily good

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I agree and disagree with this! with an increase in dental awareness and the amount of people training/becoming dentists, this has made the exam even harder to become eligable for let alone pass. There are about 20-30 dentists a year that apply and usually less than 5 get to the end and pass so I fail to see that they can be a bad dentist and pass the exam in this day and age.

However, you may be referring to the generation who passed the exam many many years ago and have chosen not to progress their training and have hence got into bad habits!?! This is why you can only become a member of the BAEDT if you pass the BEVA/BVDA exam and if you do become a member you have to complete 3 full days of training a year to maintin membership. Also, clients have the opportunity to make complaints about BAEDT members if you have concerns about their work not being up to scratch.

I believe the WWAED are the same and require their members to comply and complete training throughout their membership, I am sure Chris will confirm this.

So, at the end of the day you may not like every BAEDT dentist on a personal level and if you do have issues, why not voice them with BAEDT council?I dont see what else can be done to monitor standard of work? To me this is a hell of a lot better than the non qualified dentists (which i know there are good and bad EDTs) not being examined, regulated, adbide by a code of conduct etc etc.......

Remember there are quite a few BEVA qualified dentists who have chosen not to be members of the BAEDT and have been removed from the BEVA list of dentists as they have chosen not to be regulated and not to attend training 3 times a year and not to have their insurance checked

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