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Hi Guys,

Sinda, my old Great Dane has a bit of a bad tummy. Good in herself and eating and drinking, just very loose. There is a bug going around so I think it's that.

Any advice on what I can give her to help?

Thanks
Shoei
 
Probably worth a vet visit, as you say yours is a little older? Only cause it'll be holiday time soon, and in case it does not resolve quickly, and more money!.
My vet has some very handy probiotic paste and rehydration fluids that I have a stock of for this sort of thing.
Otherwise, give very small meals ,of either their own wet or dry food soaked/diluted for extra fluid, keep an eye on how much drinking.
I've been told that total starvation isn't the way forward, but your vet may disagree, so do what they say and suits your dog.
 
Canikur paste is good if you can get it. Otherwise a little natural yoghurt. Make sure the dog is drinking and bland small meals of chicken and rice or scrambled egg. Maybe 3 or 4 small meals a day.
If its not better in 24 hours I would go to vet as after monday they will be closed apart from emergencies.
 
Raw green tripe (available in minced frozen form from pet shop).
Thaw out a little (do not bother cooking it stinks and better raw anyway).
This restores the good bacteria in stomach of dog as has natural probiotics and digestive enzymes. If dog also vomiting or off food/water or seemingly unwell would take to vet. Be careful with the bland food route - some dogs are intolerant to rice/ pasta etc and diarrhoea could get worse. Also ensure your dog up to date with worming. Good luck.
 
SusieT said:
raw green tripe= corbie I'd be interested to see any evidence of the nautal probiotics and digestive enzymes you mention to be in this?
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yes, especially coming from a ruminant-fail to see how those bacteria and digestive enzymes suit a carnivore. tripe more likely to induce the squits in a dog not used to it imo.

canicur is good-small meals or starve for 24 hours and introduce chicken/scrambled egg (I don't bother with rice or pasta fwiw). if she's older I agree I'd see the vet sooner rather than later with Christmas break in mind. hope she's feeling better.
 
No way would I be feeding raw green tripe to a dog with diarrhoea.
Its now recommended not to starve but some vets will still advise it. I think the idea is to keep the gut moving with small light meals.
Hope your dog is better today.
 
Gawd, don't give green tripe!

I've been told but have no evidence that tinned pumpkin is good for this, I got a tin from Sainsbury the other day just cos I'd heard so much about it from the Americans on the springer page I'm on. I think it's their go to equivalent of chicken and rice.

I find you just have to wait it out, but have used kaolin from the chemist, the same stuff the vet doles out, I think, like kaolin paste? Add water to their normal food, lay off offal if you normally feed it, too much makes my lot very loose.
 
SusieT said:
raw green tripe= corbie I'd be interested to see any evidence of the nautal probiotics and digestive enzymes you mention to be in this?
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Do your own research on the internet. Look up BARF diets for dogs (feeding raw). Fact: tripe has natural digestive enzymes and probiotics in it (its cows stomach after all). A good dog breeder advised this when I had trouble as OP did, immediate improvement and never looked back. I'm not here to argue my case or debate it, just to offer something that works for me.
 
Corbie said:
Do your own research on the internet. Look up BARF diets for dogs (feeding raw). Fact: tripe has natural digestive enzymes and probiotics in it (its cows stomach after all). A good dog breeder advised this when I had trouble as OP did, immediate improvement and never looked back. I'm not here to argue my case or debate it, just to offer something that works for me.
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yes, it has digestive enzymes and probiotics-it has cow ones.
 
An article from the natural dog magazine. But there is loads of stuff on internet.....

Tripe: the magical mystery meat that dogs crave and humans fear! Tripe seems to be the line in the sand drawn between beginning raw feeders and the ‘been there, done that’ old pros.
If you are among the uninitiated, then you will find feeding tripe to be a real treat (as will your dog).
Not only will tripe provide immense health benefits for your dog, it will catapult you to the rank of seasoned raw feeder, just one rung below raw feeders who scoop road kill off the road and tote it home in their trunk to proudly offer as a gift for their furry charges!
What Is Tripe?
Tripe is the stomach of a ruminating (grazing) animal including cows, buffalo and sheep. The unique stomachs of ruminants have four chambers which systematically break down grasses with a slew of digestive enzymes, gastric juices and amino acids.
You may have seen tripe on the grocery store shelves in a white and bleached form. This is not what you want to feed your dog: it is devoid of any real value. What you want to feed is ‘green tripe’, the stuff that comes right out of the animal, dripping with all of those wonderful juices.
Why Does It Have To Be Green?
The same digestive enzymes and beneficial bacteria that help the ruminant animal digest foodstuff will do the same for your dog.
Think how much money you can spend on digestive enzymes and probiotics in a bottle and those same wonderful, natural substances are in abundance in green tripe.
Digestive enzymes aid in digestion, meaning the body does not have to expend as much energy when digesting a meal.
This means your dog gets the most nutritional benefit from his meals. Digestive enzymes also do much more than aid in digestion: they purify and cleanse the blood and remove toxins, parasites and fungus. They also improve metabolism, hormonal function and boost the immune system.
Cooking destroys digestive enzymes, so it is important that your dog’s tripe is not only green, but raw.
If your dog eats a cooked or commercial diet, then he may be suffering from enzyme deficiency. The signs of this can include anxiety, lack of energy, chronic diarrhea and digestive problems, gingivitis, viral and bacterial infections and yeast overgrowth.
If your dog suffers from any of these disorders, consider the value of adding green tripe to his diet or increasing the amount you currently feed.
The gut is populated by hundreds of different kinds of bacteria or microflora which are divided into the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’. The ‘bad’ bacteria are those responsible for health complaints and some of their members include e- coli, salmonella, campylobacter and listeria.
These are the bacteria contained in foods and the environment that could potentially make your dog sick: if it weren’t for the protection of the ‘good’ bacteria.
The good bacteria improve immune function simply by out- numbering the bad bacteria and maintaining a healthy microflora in the gut.
Green tripe is loaded with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, one of the bacterial ‘good guys’.
Your dog’s gut can only feed so many micro-organisms, so the more ‘good’ bacteria he consumes, the less ‘bad’ bacteria will find anything to eat in his gut and they will get crowded out.
Many health issues are caused by imbalance in the microflora.
Older dogs are especially prone to this as they tend to have lower levels of beneficial bacteria in their guts.
Supplementing your dog’s diet with lots of raw, green tripe will help him maintain a healthy balance of microflora, manufacture more B vitamins, and prevent many health disorders.
If your dog already suffers from health issues, consider adding raw, green tripe to his diet. Acidophilus can be used to treat a myriad of health complaints.
More Good News
Not only is tripe loaded with digestive enzymes and probiotics, it has the perfect ratio of calcium to phosphorus – 1:1.
Green tripe also contains the essential fatty acids, Linoleic and Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. It can also be served in nice, large rubbery chunks which will provide your dog with good exercise and better dental health.
The Bad News
The rumors you heard are true: tripe stinks!
 
And to explain motherofchickens (about your question how can cow probiotics be good for dogs).... this is a sourced article from the website 'keep the tail wagging'.....
Green tripe is the untreated contents of a grazing animal’s stomach or intestines. It may sound disgusting, but this food is highly nutritious, containing plenty of enzymes, good bacteria, and nutrients that are excellent for your pet’s health. It’s also a very natural part of both dogs and cats’ ancestral diets. Since both dogs and cats were hunters before being domesticated, they would often consume their prey’s stomach and other entrails. For carnivores, this can be one of the sole sources of many essential vitamins and nutrients.
Green tripe is called green not because of its colour, but because it is untouched, unbleached, and untreated, though it is usually lightly rinsed. While green tripe can be tinted green due to grass or hay eaten by the host animal, it’s predominantly brown.


You can buy green tripe from any good pet store.
 
thank you for your post. I am a microbiologist fwiw, so I do understand that certain bacteria will exist in cattle and in dogs, and that a natural dog/cats diet will include offal. I've also spent more time than I care to remember PMing ruminants and up to my elbows in guts.
Its more complex than that though, and feeding a poorly dog tripe when not used to tripe will likely (as others have said) lead to more diarrhoea. Bland protein is the safer way to go. I am not saying in itself that it will cause diarrhoea in a healthy individual-though it doesn't do much for my retriever! I am not anti-RAW but much of what you read on the internet about it is massively biased and dumbed-down as to be misleading at best and there's relatively few published trials about it.
 
For a light, bland diet I would suggest skinless white fish, steamed or microwaved with nothing extra added. Not a "balanced diet" but okay to use temporarily until the gut settles.

I would second the suggestion of seeking vet advice if you are at all concerned.
 
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Thanks guys, she seems a quite a bit better.

The vet thinks there is a lot going around at the moment. She's eating and drinking well and pretty bright. She's had some probiotic and I'm going to try her on some natural yoghurt when the shopping comes today. But she's much more normal today, just still a bit loose.
 
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