Did livery prices in sw Scotland?

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We currently have a house that we are renting out. We also have the option to offer a workshop shed, stables and acreage in addition to the house for anyone with horses.

My question is, what is a reasonable charge for use of the shed, stables and grazing? I had thought 25 per week for first horse, and 20 per week for any additional... The field would be supplied with secure fencing and the shed and stables have electricity and water...

One applicant thought this was far too much and another wants a price per acre instead for four acres.

Opinions appreciated please....
 
In NE England so not too far from you where prices are also reasonable.
I'd disagree with your potential client. £25 pw for grass livery around here is the norm - and thats what you are offering x
ETA - also grass livery is hard to come by so that could justify your charge x
 
Thank you. I did some research before pricing but they have four horses so weren't willing to pay 85 extra per week after rent.
We would need to fence off a paddock and create to stable area and have many people interested in the house itself anyway....
Won't do the stuff needed for houses unless it is worth it when the house is attractive on it's own.
 
Cows573 said:
Thank you. I did some research before pricing but they have four horses so weren't willing to pay 85 extra per week after rent.
We would need to fence off a paddock and create to stable area and have many people interested in the house itself anyway....
Won't do the stuff needed for houses unless it is worth it when the house is attractive on it's own.
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I would rent the house alone. £85 a week for 4 horses is completely unrealistic (as in too cheap) and would wreck your land
 
Im in Cumbria so would expect that to be about right, however there are some unbelievable people around at the moment, itching to start my own thread.

In Cumbria however for 25 a week people would expect diy livery with arena etc, not just grazing, lucky to get 15 a week for grazing here.
 
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ihatework said:
I would rent the house alone. £85 a week for 4 horses is completely unrealistic (as in too cheap) and would wreck your land
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Dont quite see the logic , I know plenty of yards with facilities ie schools that work on £25/week/box when coming to an agreed rent for the whole.
It all revolves around what the OP expects to get and alternatives as that rent probably is 10 x what they could achieve for any other use or have the aggro of keeping it tidy
 
It is not DIY livery so cannot be charged in the same way, it is renting a field and whatever facilities go with it and would normally be as a job lot with a restriction on how many horses to be on the land rather than rented by the box/ horse, I think around £340 per month could be a good deal to have the horses at home but equally for someone who wants to be able to exercise before or after work they are possibly better off finding a DIY livery yard that offers facilities for a fraction more.
I would let it as a unit with a restriction on how many they have and think of it as renting the field rather than offering livery to get a guide on the market value which I suspect will be lower than the price you have in mind, so you may think it not worth doing.
 
I pay £10-15 a week for field and stable (depending on whether at summer grazing or winter grazing, winter is a bit more). Local livery yard charges £25 for DIY including bedding, haylage and turnout/bring in. SW Scotland.
 
dominobrown said:
Im in Cumbria so would expect that to be about right, however there are some unbelievable people around at the moment, itching to start my own thread.

In Cumbria however for 25 a week people would expect diy livery with arena etc, not just grazing, lucky to get 15 a week for grazing here.
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I'm in Cumbria too right up by the Scottish Border, I have never found just grazing around here (I'd love grass livery) let alone so cheap!

Currently on the cheapest yard I have ever been on and I pay £26.53 a week (£115 PCM) for one horse on DIY livery with outdoor arena (unusable if it rains too much as it gets VERY deep) and hay included (no limit as long as horse doesn't waste loads). Pay extra for use of washing machine and outdoor arena lights.

If I wanted just DIY livery with arena use and source my own hay it would be around £20 per week.
 
I'm in SW Scotland and current yard is £75 per month, DIY, stable, field, arena. you source your own hay/bedding and no option for turnout/turnin.

I believe it is one of the cheapest in the area, others are between £80 - £100 per month for the same set up.

I used to keep DIY at a small holding, field, stable, electricity. no mains water had to fill buckets from a burn, £60 per month
 
Damnation said:
I'm in Cumbria too right up by the Scottish Border, I have never found just grazing around here (I'd love grass livery) let alone so cheap!

Currently on the cheapest yard I have ever been on and I pay £26.53 a week (£115 PCM) for one horse on DIY livery with outdoor arena (unusable if it rains too much as it gets VERY deep) and hay included (no limit as long as horse doesn't waste loads). Pay extra for use of washing machine and outdoor arena lights.

If I wanted just DIY livery with arena use and source my own hay it would be around £20 per week.
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Tbh i have never seen proper grass livery as such, you would just have to rent a field from a farmer really.
 
Update....
We ended up letting the house out on it's own with a workshop shed for £50/month with the shed.

Grass lets (6 months let) in our area this year went for £200 per acre. As a farmer, you can then let out the ground for sheep wintering for £21.60 per acre.

The recommended acreage for a horse appears to be 4 acres. That means the ground is worth £16.60 per week or nearly £72 per month without stable, electricity, water or arena.

Just to let you everyone know why it doesn't justify farmers, in some areas, to offer diy livery. Also makes me wonder why some diy livery with arenas and such, is so cheap!

PS. We are looking at purchasing another farm with stables already set up, considered diy livery with the stables, but the sums don't make it worth it!!!
 
dollyanna said:
I pay £10-15 a week for field and stable (depending on whether at summer grazing or winter grazing, winter is a bit more). Local livery yard charges £25 for DIY including bedding, haylage and turnout/bring in. SW Scotland.
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How can the yard owner afford to give diy for £25 inc bedding, haylage and turnout! She must have a huge waiting list
 
Flora said:
How can the yard owner afford to give diy for £25 inc bedding, haylage and turnout! She must have a huge waiting list
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A few yards up here are £25 a week (I'm just over that) for grazing, stable and includes hay and straw. (Doesn't include turnout though). My yard is full and I was on a waiting list to get on it with 4 horses. Previous yard was similar set up/price.
 
Cows573 said:
Update....
We ended up letting the house out on it's own with a workshop shed for £50/month with the shed.

Grass lets (6 months let) in our area this year went for £200 per acre. As a farmer, you can then let out the ground for sheep wintering for £21.60 per acre.

The recommended acreage for a horse appears to be 4 acres. That means the ground is worth £16.60 per week or nearly £72 per month without stable, electricity, water or arena.

Just to let you everyone know why it doesn't justify farmers, in some areas, to offer diy livery. Also makes me wonder why some diy livery with arenas and such, is so cheap!

PS. We are looking at purchasing another farm with stables already set up, considered diy livery with the stables, but the sums don't make it worth it!!!
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Who have you been talking to? Though I like their style. The recommended acreage is 1.5 acres for the first horse and one acre for each additional horse. Ponies need less.

You don't say how much acreage you have, but working on the basis that you have 4 acres, you would earn £133.33 per month on your 6 month let. That's a big difference in price from the £85 per week you were planning to charge.
 
Flora said:
How can the yard owner afford to give diy for £25 inc bedding, haylage and turnout! She must have a huge waiting list
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I know this is an old thread from last year, but re. the above, in Central Scotland you would pay nearly double that for the same livery arrangement with a decent arena. Can't see how it would be worth bothering to have any liveries at £25 per week, with hay at £3.50 a bale x 3 per week = £10.50, 4 bales of straw say £6, labour for turning out £1 per day = £7 that leaves you £1.50 to do all your maintenance and get some profit!!
 
So... if you have unlimited acreage with stables, no arena, diy for everything except electricity and water, how much? We are putting in an offer on a 220 acre farm that has four stables good to go...
 
A stable and grazing for pure DIY without a school or any facilities other than water/electric would be absolutely maximum £25 per horse and only if you have god outriding. Grass livery from £10-15 per week. No matter how many acres you have, I like the idea of 220 acres but don't like the thought of traipsing through it to find the horse I want to ride.
 
Depends where you are in SW Scotland - it covers a huge area and parts of it are exceptionally wet especially in winter. £25 a week with a school to ride in and a stable with good grazing would be reasonable but not any more unless exceptional facilities. 220 acres of good dry grazing sounds good but if its low lying it won't be much use in winter. Most yards whether private or livery business find that they have to bring horses in for at least part if the time during the winter - its rained almost constantly here most of the summer, people struggling to harvest still and fields totally ruined. Don't think this will be a money making venture unless you are able to provide exceptional facilities or its hill land/rough grazing which is sloping and so has runoff.
 
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