did you no cornucrescine is ....

[fburton]

http://www.equinenow.com/store-item-23740

It reads very benign. However I am extremely allergic to lanolin so it is not something I would ever use. Not all the ingredients are listed so again not something I would use.

Some essential oils aren't benign - again depending on concentration and exposure.

http://www.zenitech.com/documents/Toxicity_of_essential_oils_p1.pdf

Hoof and skin is best treated by dietry intake imo.

I agree.

Btw, does anyone use engine oil (new or used) as hoof oil? I knew someone who used to use the used stuff - until I mentioned the fact it contained some really nasty substances including carcinogens.

 

[Jesstickle]

Well, it depends on the concentration too. I expect the cornucrescine on your fingers is a very thin layer and diluted with the other grot on your hands. Look, I'm not saying that it's postively dangerous - if it was, there'd be a safety warning - but it may still be an irritant.

possibly. But as someone who works in a lab and has had much worse on their hands ( I am clumsy for the record, not deliberately cavalier!) without suffering ill effect I'm not overly concerned. Soap is an irritant for some people but I'm not going to stop bathing! If the horse is obviously fine with it then no harm done I would say. It's not a new remedy, my mother used it back in the 70s so I would imagine any serious issues would have come to light by now.

 

[indie999]

My farrier recommended it to me for sand cracks and I rubbed it into coronary band and it seemed to work but I never used it constantly prefer to let nature do its thing. Used it daily for about a week. Never heard anything bad about it though.

 

[fburton]

possibly. But as someone who works in a lab and has had much worse on their hands ( I am clumsy for the record, not deliberately cavalier!) without suffering ill effect I'm not overly concerned.

Bet you I've had worse stuff on my hands in my lab! (Not to mention that as a child-chemist I used to experiment at home with all kinds of reagents that are now considered quite nasty, like benzene. Not saying that should be cause for pride... ... and the really dangerous stuff like alpha-toxin was a proper gloves and fume cupboard job.)

Soap is an irritant for some people but I'm not going to stop bathing! If the horse is obviously fine with it then no harm done I would say. It's not a new remedy, my mother used it back in the 70s so I would imagine any serious issues would have come to light by now.

Sometimes formulations change - like Protocon cream, which used to be fantastic for mudrash - but I think you're probably right in the case of cornucrescine.

 

[fburton]

My farrier recommended it to me for sand cracks and I rubbed it into coronary band and it seemed to work but I never used it constantly prefer to let nature do its thing. Used it daily for about a week. Never heard anything bad about it though.

I used cornucrescine for what looked like a sandcrack at the front of my TB's hoof when he was 2yo, rubbing it into the coronary band as recommended every day. A couple of weeks later the hoof started to come away in a horizontal strip just below the coronary band. It was as if the upper hoof was growing too fast and had caused a detachment from the existing lower part of the hoof. So I decided to stop applying the ointment and to leave it well alone. Fortunately the 'flap' grew out over the course of the following few weeks. I had never seen anything like that before, nor anything like it since.

Obviously I can't say that the increased growth rate due to the cornucrescine was to blame as the surface splitting might have occurred anyway. However, it has made me a little bit wary of applying ointments willy-nilly.

 

[stacie21]

i was not saying not to use it neither was i saying it left big blisters. i have also used it for a number of years and put it on my nails. what i was getting at was has anyone else's horses not liked it being put on ? and because this filly did not like it but did not care about anything else i asked farrier and he told me how it worked and that it is a mild blister / irritant to stimulate growth

 

[moana]

Exactly sizzlerB.

 

[amandap]

There are various preparations as well, some coconut oil based. http://www.carrdaymartin.co.uk/product_details.html?cid=NA&pid=MzA=

I do think this claim for the hoof ointment is interesting.
"Maintains optimum hoof condition and aids re-structuring & growth of the hoof."

I believe hooves restructure when fed appropriately and have enough correct exercize along with appropriate hoof care. Putting anything on a hoof isn't going to help it restructure. Whatever that really means.

Yes fburton I agree some essential oils in certain concentrations can be far from benign. Unfortunately this info isn't there or I can't find it easily. I'm sure the company would happily provide the details if asked for anyone interested.

Mta. Having a horse nicknamed "the crack queen" I can categorically state that you don't need to put gunk on hooves to heal cracks. Should read grow out cracks.

 

[king_of_diamonds]

Wow, didn't know that but it's not something you really question, is it? I've never had a horse react badly to it or anything...It's fascinating though!