Difference between a Irish Sports Horse and a LW Cob?

We have a retired ISH and she's very well bred with pink papers. At the moment you'd think she was a welsh sec D or conamara! Since she's been retired due to bad kissing spine she's doubled in size! They should be registered which you can check by calling the ISH association.
 
wench said:
IMO:

ISH = sporty model
Cob = cart horse
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My carthorse:
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I think most things that come out of Ireland are called an ISH!

Ones with a green passport have recorded and quality breeding, ones without probably not so much.
 
I'm having the same dilemma over my youngster. He is Irish cob (sire) X tbxID (dam). Cannot for the life of me decide if he is a hunter type or a LW maxi cob! He turns 4 in the spring, is 16.1hh at the moment, and had 9.5 inches of bone last time I measured.
He was a bargain anyway, and is a lovely kind boy, so I couldn't care less about his breeding, though! It'd just be nice to know where he 'fits' for showing! Suppose I'll have to wait and see :) Here he is (any excuse to post a pic of my boy :p )
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And one of his goofy baby face :D
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Pretty sure if mine would have a green passport if his breeding was known and he's definitely not an ISH! Irish Horse Board passports are green unless breeding is unknown then they're white.
 
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Laura-C said:
I'm having the same dilemma over my youngster. He is Irish cob (sire) X tbxID (dam). Cannot for the life of me decide if he is a hunter type or a LW maxi cob! He turns 4 in the spring, is 16.1hh at the moment, and had 9.5 inches of bone last time I measured.
He was a bargain anyway, and is a lovely kind boy, so I couldn't care less about his breeding, though! It'd just be nice to know where he 'fits' for showing! Suppose I'll have to wait and see :) Here he is (any excuse to post a pic of my boy :p )
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And one of his goofy baby face :D
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Definitely more of an over grown coblet IMO. He's very handsome though, and I'm sure he'd do grand out hunting! :)
 
My mare is classed as an ISH and has a blue passport with full parentage (including Diamond Mine and going back to King of Diamonds). Is a green passport a sign of better breeding or is there some other difference? Is it more desirable to have a green rather than blue passport?
 
TheSylv007 said:
My mare is classed as an ISH and has a blue passport with full parentage (including Diamond Mine and going back to King of Diamonds). Is a green passport a sign of better breeding or is there some other difference? Is it more desirable to have a green rather than blue passport?
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No, green just denotes Irish Horse Board and a horse of known parentage. (Mine is of unknown breeding so has a white IHB passport)

Not sure about blue-is that ISH Board? I think I read recently that the Irish Horse Sports agency has now amalgamated with the Irish Horse Board-I might be dreaming, dunno.
 
Starbucks said:
Badger is a green PP ISH (pants pics, sorry), I think he is of a traditional ISH type?

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And I guess to demonstrate they come in different shapes and sizes ..... Lockie has green passport, Category - Section A Irish Horse Register (sire approved ISH, dam ISH Sect A stud book) and bit of a different type to lovely Badger (who I must say looks like a lovely hunter :))

Chesnut roan in centre:

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And doing what he loves best ... slightly leaving me behind in the process :o

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I would say Lockie is a fairly light type and looks more like a "blood" horse. Has more bone than my TB but definitely wouldn't have as much bone as more traditional ID/cob type
 
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Thanks Starbucks :) I was thinking the same thing, he has definitely gotten cobbier in the last 6 months! I'm sure his chest has tripled in width since I bought him 18 months ago! He was bought with the view to hunt in the future, I just hope he behaves himself when we get that far :p
Your lad is cracking, btw! I would have said he is a 'classic' ISH, but then again I don't have much idea on types, lol. Lord knows, I had no idea what my youngster would/will turn into, I bought him 'cos he moved straight and has a kind face :)
 
TeamChaser said:
And I guess to demonstrate they come in different shapes and sizes ..... Lockie has green passport, Category - Section A Irish Horse Register (sire approved ISH, dam ISH Sect A stud book) and bit of a different type to lovely Badger (who I must say looks like a lovely hunter :))

Chesnut roan in centre:

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And doing what he loves best ... slightly leaving me behind in the process :o

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I would say Lockie is a fairly light type and looks more like a "blood" horse. Has more bone than my TB but definitely wouldn't have as much bone as more traditional ID/cob type
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See, I don't think she looks that different (to Badger) at all. She is lighter, but has a similar stamp to her I think. When I got Badger as a 6yo he looked like he had much more blood in him but he seems to have just grown in stature over the last 7 years! He still is still faster than my dads (not very good at all) flat bred horse though! :-) And can certainly jump a lot better!
 
TheSylv007 said:
My mare is classed as an ISH and has a blue passport with full parentage (including Diamond Mine and going back to King of Diamonds). Is a green passport a sign of better breeding or is there some other difference? Is it more desirable to have a green rather than blue passport?
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Think green passprt denotes by approved sire? May be wrong though! All a bit confusing :)
 
This is my ISH Leo, he has a Blue Irish Horse Board passport and has all his breeding in it :) His dad is a registered hannoverian stallion in Ireland and his grandsire on his dams side is Clover Hill :D

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and just coz hes gorgeous :D

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Guys. Green means that BOTH parents are in the main section of the studbook with an established pedigree and the stallion has been approved Blue means that the sire is not fully approved. So you can have 3 generations of breeding but if the stallion is not approved, then you have a blue passport. White means unknown breeding. A traditional mix of ID x TB WILL lkeep growing till 6 or 7 due to the ID influence, think of them as a true warmblood! My 5 year old has gone from 16.1 to just under 16.3 in a year and expanded a lot. I expect him to move up a bit more as well. He does not, however, look remotely cobby. He could pass for a heavier TB. And he does have a full green passport as well. Hope that clarifies the point over the breeding.
 
Cob

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ISH (with green passport)

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ISH has just had his new saddle refitted after 12 weeks of work and has gone from a medium to a wide bypassing medium-wide. At just 5, if he carries on growing until 6 or 7 I'll need a) a FF 22" saddle :p and b) a crane.
 
Luci07 said:
Guys. Green means that BOTH parents are in the main section of the studbook with an established pedigree and the stallion has been approved Blue means that the sire is not fully approved. So you can have 3 generations of breeding but if the stallion is not approved, then you have a blue passport. White means unknown breeding. A traditional mix of ID x TB WILL lkeep growing till 6 or 7 due to the ID influence, think of them as a true warmblood! My 5 year old has gone from 16.1 to just under 16.3 in a year and expanded a lot. I expect him to move up a bit more as well. He does not, however, look remotely cobby. He could pass for a heavier TB. And he does have a full green passport as well. Hope that clarifies the point over the breeding.
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Really? my boy has a blue passport and his sire is approved?
 
My mare has a Blue Passport and no breeding recorded!! Apparently that means she must have been taken to a graded and deemed of type.... lol!

From my research, her breeder breeds RID, so I think he must have used one of his stallions on a coloured to get her and maybe didn't want to admit it? Who knows!!! lol!
 
Luci07 said:
If both parents are not in the main studbook with full breeding then yours will have a blue. So if your horses sire is approved, and mare is not in the main studbook, this will equal blue.
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I've just looked at the Horse Sport Ireland database and his dam is registered on there, with her breeding as well (clover hill being her sire) can that still mean shes not in the main studbook? (sorry dont know that much about breeding!)
 
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