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ok hanks as instructor suggested moving out of out chunky happy mouth as it does neither of us justice on the flat so thought i may try our hanging cheek snaffle
 
wheras i agree with irish cob, howcould it have poll pressure, it is made to be independant in the mouth so they get a correct hand aid. but not good for leaners as it has more stability and they can get a better grip.
 
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Exceptions to the snaffle-bit actions: Baucher, aka "Hanging Cheek Snaffle": With this bit, the headstall has a separate ring. In this case, the rein action causes the bit to tilt, exerting poll pressure that encourages the horse to lower his head.
 
Druid told us all this on another forum "hanging cheek snaffles, there is no poll action; for that to occur you need 2 fixed points of torque (i.e. the cheek ring and the lower rein rings in a dutch gag) which are either ride of the fulcrum/turning centre (the mouth piece)...a hanging cheek hasn't got 2 points of torque as the mouth piece and reins are level.

What hangign cheeks/bauchers do is stabalise the bit in the mouth and give clearer aids across the tongue and bars due to the angle they sit in the mouth."
 
I think what you are saying is correct.

But, the Hanging cheek has a slight amount of "torque" being that the cheek piece and reins attach to different rings.

See. Were both right
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So do you think this bit would be good for my fairyly hard mouthed , high head holding gelding?

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Sorry got carried away in the debate!

If you want a dressage legal....give it a go.

I didn't find it really did anything on Finni but he doesn't have a particularly high head carriage.
 
Only if it is a loose ring. Being a fixed cheek the cheek ring and the rein ring move as one. Try it on yourself thats what I did.

Madgirl- yes it could be a good bit if the horse is hard mouthed/ high head horse as it makes your signals clearer.
 
just thought i'd add that my mare goes really well in a hanging cheek and she used to belt about with her head in the air.

i have found it very good, but every horse is different - give it a try and see.

FMC - LOVE your cat
 
Hanging cheek worked for me, bit is much stiller in the mouth,, and yes I would agree it does give a little poll action. I used a French link so each side moved independantly and she had nothing to hold onto. Worked so well we have now gone down to a myler comfort snaffle.
 
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