Dilemma...of sorts..

It sounds like you have made the best decision all round. A £200 pony with laminitis and behavioural problems is going to end up in a vicious circle of unsuitable homes if no one does the right thing. From the first time I saw the Potters video I would have no problem with anyone taking a horse there - for me the Animal Aid propaganda had completely the opposite effect.
 
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he will travel less than 45 minutes with a net of haylege..he is booked in on the next session..i spoke to Potter myself..who agreed with me that is wasn't practical nor right, to keep him without medication any longer than needed so i'm allowed to squeeze him in over their quota..with DEFRA approval...the next time i could get him in would have been in 2 weeks time, so he's going in the next session.

he will wait on the lorry with my OH, who will take him himself into the Hall..where he will be met by the guy holding the rifle in the AA video, who happens to be a member of he same hunt as us, and a thoroughly professional man..and a horse owner to boot!..my OH will wait until it's all over, be given back his halter..and home we go.

no pain, no stress, no fuss.

the pennies i receive from him have already been earmarked to help bring home some other unfortunate pony who needs a good start in life

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Put like that, I dont know how anyone can tell you you are doing the wrong thing.
When I first came to this forum, I disagreed vehemently with the idea of taking any horse to a slaughterhouse to be killed. I, like the majority of the uninformed population, believed it to be a 'production line', and place that fills the animals with fear and panic as their time draws nearer. When AnimalAid released that video, I watched it with the full intention of being horrified, but what actually happened was that my opinion was completely reversed. I saw calm, contented horses, I saw a competent and swift dispatching process.
Now, I am not going to lie to anyone - I hate the horse meat trade, and I disagree with anyone eating horse meat, however it was produced. But that is by the by - the fact is, no matter what happens to the meat afterwards, the process of putting the animal down is quick and humane. Not 'in their own familiar fields', I would agree - but then every horse we have ever had PTS has been taken to the kennels to be shot there, rather than being done at home. Quick, and humane - surely that is all you could want for a horse?
 
I think the fair thing to do as the has laminitis, possibly KS and is unrideable would be to PTS/send to Potters as he will need lots of treatment and would be really hard if not impossible to rehome as a compaion.
 
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Two words I don't think could ever go together is JM07 and cruel...



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thank you kitsune
 
JM please dont lower yourself to the few on here that know absolutely nothing about you and what you do i know 100% you will do right by the pony
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JM07, we all know horses are not immortal; they have to meet their death some day
This particular pony was lucky twice - firstly to meet you who was prepared to give him a second chance if it were viable, and secondly, that you will ensure he has a good death.
If you can't sort him, he can't be sorted, not with those issues.
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i no this has probly beem done to death b4 on the forum(but im new and missed it)..but what was wrong with the way the pony was treated in the animalaid video?i dont see any problem.. calm relaxed pony being put down in an efficent and profesional manner hell if anything it made them look like fools..childrens beloved pony being put to sleep..highly unlikely good kids ponys are like gold dust!...
ps Jm completely agree with your choice!!
 
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i no this has probly beem done to death b4 on the forum(but im new and missed it)..but what was wrong with the way the pony was treated in the animalaid video?i dont see any problem.. calm relaxed pony being put down in an efficent and profesional manner hell if anything it made them look like fools..childrens beloved pony being put to sleep..highly unlikely good kids ponys are like gold dust!...
ps Jm completely agree with your choice!!

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Nothing was wrong with it. Potters do a kind and efficient job.
I think the link was posted by someone who has yet to accept that death follows life as night follows day.
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Take him to Potters, F.

You were one of the first to quite sternly chastise me for selling Bailey on as a companion when he had lameness issues (only to later find he'd been sold on into a riding home the very next day). I recall being told I was naive at the time, and I am sure you were right.

If I could have my time over, I'd have had him PTS (actually I mean I'd have taken him to Turners as he was a waste of £2600 when I bought him) without hesitation.

Your pony needs to go sooner rather later too, as I assume he could possible be in some considerable pain with laminitis in all four feet and no pain relief.
 
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It is worse than having it PTS because of the travel, which won't be comfortable for an un-buted pony in this state. In a production-line style environment there will almost certainly be more experienced people to slaughter than any vet is to PTS but it is not a pleasant place for an animal to end it's life and when an animal doesn't go quickly the first time there is often less attention paid so it can suffer for longer.

Personally I'd never risk it for the sake of the money.

I know this opinion hasn't made this particular forum newbie popular but as I used to have to tell traders in a bank when they'd lost money I'm pretty used to being yelled at for other peoples' bad luck.

FWIW I benefit enormously from the experience of other forum members, including JM07, learning a lot. On the relatively limited areas where I am well informed though I'm biting the bullet and allowing myself to be sworn at!
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I think what you're failing to grasp here is that JM won't view this pony as a "pet" like most of us with horses do. She won't have any emotional attachment to it, other than to be disappointed for the pony (note I didn't say disappointed with the pony) that she couldn't turn this one around like she does many of the others she buys in to sell on.

I should know, I bought one such pony from her in 2007!
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When you've chucked money at a pony/horse, some people can't bear the idea to chuck good money after bad at them being PTS at home and the associated disposal costs. It may not be what you would do, but it's not an indication of anyone being uncaring etc.

I am pretty sure that if anything were to happen to JM himself (as in the the four legged JM) that JM (the user) would view his end in a very different light. He's her horse, they have a special bond. Totally different.

We send our cows off to be slaughtered. Should we hold their hand and sit with them in the fields when their time is up too? Horses, even though we view them differently, are essentially just livestock.
 
thank you Patches for your lovely reply.
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and yes, you are quite right..when JM has to meet his maker things will be quite different, i'm sure
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thank you Patches for your lovely reply.
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and yes, you are quite right..when JM has to meet his maker things will be quite different, i'm sure
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I couldn't not reply.....it was all getting a bit ridiculous!

I would think many people would've passed Oliver on from pillar to post because of how nervous and un-trusting he was. He wasn't a pony to make a quick turnaround on. You knew that and were prepared to give him a chance.

Many, many others wouldn't have.

Had he not had that chance from you, he probably wouldn't be in a loving home where he is enjoying his job, and his pampering even more so! He has turned out to be somewhat of a superstar pony and we do have you (and your patience) to thank for that.
 
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