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Is there any way that Rossa can appeal that the punishment is insufficient under the rules of French racing? Or is it one of those things that he is constrained by having to work in the weighing room to not 'rock the boat'?
 
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What was his defence that was so good he only got a small ban?
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Soumillon said: "It was a terrible thing that happened. I was riding my race as always and two of us wanted the same spot. I thought I was just easing Rossa over so I could stay behind Ryan [Moore]. Unfortunately on the very soft ground he became unbalanced and came off.

"That was the first surprise because I wondered what had happened. When I watched back the pictures, I could see clearly what had happened – that I had gone elbow to elbow with him, which unfortunately I should never have done.

"I made a mistake and I am upset for my owner and trainer as well as for his, because it has resulted in them both losing out. The worst of it is that when a jockey falls like that it could have been a lot worse for him.

"I'm reassured that he's okay and when I saw he was unhurt I went and apologised straight away. That's the best news of the day. It's the kind of thing nobody wants to see in our sport.

"I totally understand the reaction of people who question what happened and feel it was totally unacceptable, so it is for me to suffer the consequences."
 
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That has changed from when the Racing Post first reported it. The first report quoted Soumillon as saying that Rossa had gone out slightly, he went into the very tight gap and out his elbow out to make sure Rossa knew he was there then his horse shifted sideways which caused the bump.

Eta - At The Races still has the original quote:
“I felt a little bit of pressure from Rossa on my outside while trying to keep a better position behind Ryan (Moore). I was just behind Ryan at the time and I put my elbow against him just to make him understand I wasn’t going to the inside,” Soumillon explained to Sky Sports Racing.

“Unfortunately when I asked my horse to stay there and go a little bit to the right I have pushed him for a stride or two and he fell off.
 
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Elf On A Shelf said:
That has changed from when the Racing Post first reported it. The first report quoted Soumillon as saying that Rossa had gone out slightly, he went into the very tight gap and out his elbow out to make sure Rossa knew he was there then his horse shifted sideways which caused the bump.

Eta - At The Races still has the original quote:
“I felt a little bit of pressure from Rossa on my outside while trying to keep a better position behind Ryan (Moore). I was just behind Ryan at the time and I put my elbow against him just to make him understand I wasn’t going to the inside,” Soumillon explained to Sky Sports Racing.

“Unfortunately when I asked my horse to stay there and go a little bit to the right I have pushed him for a stride or two and he fell off.
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Having watched the clip over and over he intentionally shoved his upper body in a rightward direction at Rossa to push him.
He didnt just put his elbow against him - there’s a vast difference between touching to alert another ‘im here’ and shoving someone to push them out of the way!

That was a very nasty fall at speed to walk away from, my god!
 
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Elf On A Shelf said:
Soumillon said: "It was a terrible thing that happened. I was riding my race as always and two of us wanted the same spot. I thought I was just easing Rossa over so I could stay behind Ryan [Moore]. Unfortunately on the very soft ground he became unbalanced and came off.

"That was the first surprise because I wondered what had happened. When I watched back the pictures, I could see clearly what had happened – that I had gone elbow to elbow with him, which unfortunately I should never have done.

"I made a mistake and I am upset for my owner and trainer as well as for his, because it has resulted in them both losing out. The worst of it is that when a jockey falls like that it could have been a lot worse for him.

"I'm reassured that he's okay and when I saw he was unhurt I went and apologised straight away. That's the best news of the day. It's the kind of thing nobody wants to see in our sport.

"I totally understand the reaction of people who question what happened and feel it was totally unacceptable, so it is for me to suffer the consequences."
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oh well as long as he said sorry ?
 
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Interestingly Kieren Fallon got a 6 month suspension for pulling a fellow jockey off his horse after they had crossed the finishing line in the 90's. Not quite sure why Rossa and the trainers of his ride are being so politely accepting of Soumillon's "apology".
 
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Velcrobum said:
This is the racing post article
https://www.racingpost.com/news/int...-to-elbow-rossa-ryan-out-of-the-saddle/581471

It looked very deliberate to me and the ban should have been instant rather than allowing him to race in this weekends lucrative races. IMHO.
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Unfortunately the only time bans come in with immediate affect is drug and alcohol ones when they have failed on the day testing. Bans start 2 weeks after they are given to allow trainers and owners to make other plans for their horses if they want that particular jockey to ride.

Rossa may be keeping quiet at the moment so he doesn't say something that may interfere with any further action he may take. Or he may just be sucking it up and getting on with the job. Only time will tell.
 
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Soumillon can appeal the ban. He would be very stupid to do so because the authorities can take a second look and ban him for longer. It is also race day stewards that have given him this ban. France Gallop's main men can reassess and review the incident and hand out a different ban if they wish with or without an appeal. (If the French system works the same way as ours.)
 
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Jesus ? that other boy could have broken his bloody neck! I’d have kicked the utter crap out of him in the locker room later! That guy is so lucky to have walked away from that. What a complete barsteward ??
 
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Elf On A Shelf said:
Soumillon said: "It was a terrible thing that happened. I was riding my race as always and two of us wanted the same spot. I thought I was just easing Rossa over so I could stay behind Ryan [Moore]. Unfortunately on the very soft ground he became unbalanced and came off.

"That was the first surprise because I wondered what had happened. When I watched back the pictures, I could see clearly what had happened – that I had gone elbow to elbow with him, which unfortunately I should never have done.

"I made a mistake and I am upset for my owner and trainer as well as for his, because it has resulted in them both losing out. The worst of it is that when a jockey falls like that it could have been a lot worse for him.

"I'm reassured that he's okay and when I saw he was unhurt I went and apologised straight away. That's the best news of the day. It's the kind of thing nobody wants to see in our sport.

"I totally understand the reaction of people who question what happened and feel it was totally unacceptable, so it is for me to suffer the consequences."
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F**k me! Is that what he said!!

Lets take look at this from another way.

He "eases" Ryan over. Ryan falls off. Breaks his neck and dies. \

Charge is manslaughter all day long.

Life ban is the only punishment.
 
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