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Ambers mum

Ambers mum

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My 17 year old applied for a job at a local yard and was taken on at £5 per hour. She was just doing Saturday and Wednesdays a week. Her job included helping at lessons and mucking out. She went today as a first day and did 8 hours.

The woman decided she didn't have any cash and offered my daughter a 20 minute lesson. The whole point is my daughter applied for a paid job at an agreed fee, she is fab at mucking out and was at work on time 7 am which the woman had known meant her leaving home at 6 am.

I have told my daughter not to go back as there's nothing to say she wont do it again. What would you do? She never took her up on the lesson and never got paid eitherx
 
Your daughter should return for her next shift and request the money owed, if she isn't given it she should leave and then put it in writing how she would like to be paid. Take it from there.
 
Could you phone the woman and clarify the situation? Remind her that this was meant to be a paid job and try to ascertain what day your daughter will receive her wages. By rights she is owed her pay!
 
Billie1007 said:
Your daughter should return for her next shift and request the money owed, if she isn't given it she should leave and then put it in writing how she would like to be paid. Take it from there.
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This.

Your daughter has a verbal contract with this woman, and she must stand by it. Maybe the woman is testing her levels, but needs to be told wages are to be paid on time..
 
Also, just think - would you take this treatment from an employer in any other industry? If I worked at Tesco and they offered me a pint of milk in lieu of wages the answer would be 'Er, no!' Lol!
Your daughter is entitled to payment for the work she has provided this business.
 
Has your daughter signed a contract? If she hasn't, you could speak to her boss with her and say as she is under 18, you want to approve it etc and make sure she gets paid.
It sounds to me as if the woman is trying it on as your daughter is young and she (the boss) could be trying to take advantage. Make it politely firm that neither of you will accept any crap and if she still takes the pee, take legal action and walk away. I dont think she will contest over £5 per hr against solicitor fees. Good luck!
 
Reminds me of a lovely gentle guy who lived and worked all his life in our village years ago. He came and asked if I would help him get some stuff back to his house as he didn't have a car. I said Yes, and asked what the 'stuff' was. Whereupon he broke down and said he'd done a week's (hard) manual labour for these people who had just sold their house. By the day before they were moving they still hadn't paid him. He went round (nervously, as he was a very quiet guy) to ask for his money. They said they didn't have any on them, or a cheque, and they 'paid' him with two wooden gateposts and a dog cage - and he didn't even have a dog!!!!

I think you should ring this woman, as your daughter is quite young still, remind her what the arrangement is - and if the money isn't forthcoming, take her to the Small Claims Court (I think you said your daughter did 8 hours - 8 x £5 = £40). It won't cost you anything, and may make her think again (if she doesn't turn up the Court are very likely to find in your daughter's favour anyway). What a cow! And what a bad example to set your daughter at the start of her working life.
 
Sounds like a few people I know unfortunately. I don't know how they think they can get away with it. I would return with your daughter and ask for her wages. What a cow bag hope u get it sorted
 
So this was cash in hand - surely, legally she should get a proper wage slip and paid at the end of an agreed period (weekly/monthly). Without this I would be concerned if other legal requirement were not in place i.e. liability insurance etc.
 
not if OPs daughter is under 20.

Like others, depending on the age of your daughter I would go back with her and request the money as agreed.
 
I would let your daughter go back and ask for her wages. I would then go and pick her up and wait until she is paid.

Depending what happens I would advice your daughter not to go back. Once these people have done it once they will do it again.

Wages of £5 an hour were agreed NOT anything else.
 
Was the agreement to get paid at the end of each day? If not then I would calm down. I've never worked a job when I get paid at the end of the day it's always weekly, fortnightly or monthly. In this type of job I would expect weekly.
 
Let us know how u get on.I know a woman like this who isn't very forthcoming with money and offers lessons instead. If money was agreed money is what she should get. Good luck
 
amage said:
Was the agreement to get paid at the end of each day? If not then I would calm down. I've never worked a job when I get paid at the end of the day it's always weekly, fortnightly or monthly. In this type of job I would expect weekly.
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Agree. Even with a casual job I've never been paid daily unless I only worked the one day a week.
 
I would go back & speak to the woman. If she isn't forthcoming with a good explanation, eg 'we pay weekly, she will be paid on x day, the lesson was just because there appeared to be crossed wires & your daughter was disappointed she wasn't getting paid that day, so offered as an extra', then as you mention lessons, I would be tempted to continue politely discussing it infront of clients.
 
We've only ever paid weekly at minimum.

Agree with LL however I'd let your daughter pop down and and ask when payment is done, ie weekly or monthly alone first. She's old enough to stand on her own two and should for now imo. It may be crossed wires and may turn into a job she loves, if not she may be able to sort the situation herself (money and leaving). Either way its a good feeling to sort yourself at that age.

If the YO is then taking the piss pop down with her and be back up. Public liability, inland revenue etc are all good words to then throw around...
 
Not only is that a crap situation, most lessons are an hour. So this woman feels she's good enough to command £120 per hour for her teaching? I mean I'm not making less of the fact she didn't get paid. Just if the woman was trading £40 as only 20 mins of a lesson, she better be coaching some of GB's best!

But at the heart of the matter is that a fee was agreed upon and then not followed through. The one life lesson here (and I say this as someone who made a life in horses) is to go to college to get the best degree possible and have horses to enjoy.

Not for nothing but the couple of times we took on people to just muck mornings only, we paid €15 an hour. I wanted someone decent and also wanted them to know we appreciated hard work. And at that we got someone very decent who also had another job but was delighted with the early hours and fresh air.

Terri
 
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