DISGUSTING - tb's shot - surplus to requirements

I agree it is horrid and I feel sorry for the poor groom but as others have said better that than going for meat. The yard in question can't be that callous or they'd have gone for the meat money. At least they were humanely destroyed at their yard and hopefully not distressed any more than necessary.
 
Just adds to the many reasons why I absolutely loathe the racing industry. Its all money, money, money.

I often think if the public knew just what went on in the name of "The Sport of Kings" then they would have clamoured to ban racing over foxhunting..oh, yeah, but the Government makes money from racing...grrr.

Better shot than shipped for slaughter or neglected however. The whole industry is based on the wastage of horses each year.

Kept in stables and only let out an hour a day...totally institutionalised and unable to just "be" horses. No regard for their psychology or well being then dumped when they can no longer perform, no wonder they are so F**ked up.
 
It is very sad, but the last time I looked the racing industries own figures suggested that something like 5000 horses per year leave the racing industry.

Given the current financial climate, the number of horses already in the market place and the low prices most horses are making at the sales, it is not very surprising.
 
once again I think its the kindest thing in the circumstances, its horrible there are so many unwanted horses from all spheres but the racing industry seems the biggest, we can all help horse welfare by not breeding and instead finding a job for an unwanted horse
I think the worse outcome for any horse must be the long distance transport to Europe... barbaric and so is anyone who eats horse flesh ...
 
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barbaric and so is anyone who eats horse flesh ...

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Hardly.
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How is it any different to eating cow flesh, as long as the animal had a decent life and a humane death?
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If that ever happens again (which it will as it offen does) please let me know as i can train them and give them a home for reselling.

done it before and would do it again!!

im in Devon.

Just PM and i would/will take what i can and if they are to kill them then they could of accepted less, there value for meat wshould have been around 350!

it make me SOOO very mad.
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Yes, like I said, as long as it had a decent life and a humane death. Not sure any of those taste very nice though.

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well canables(sp) obviously do!!

and the japanese eat dog and cat so they must do too.

Doesnt make it right though
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- But then im a veggie so i hate it all - sorry wrong person to read this post
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Yes, like I said, as long as it had a decent life and a humane death. Not sure any of those taste very nice though.

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well canables(sp) obviously do!!

and the japanese eat dog and cat so they must do too.

Doesnt make it right though
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- But then im a veggie so i hate it all - sorry wrong person to read this post
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The Japanese eat a lot of things, doesn't mean they taste nice.
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Also, they're not known for their animal welfare standards either.
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As for cannibalism, most of it happens either because people would otherwise starve to death, or it is committed by people with serious mental health problems. And, if you were a member of some ancient tribe that practises cannibalism you wouldn't know any different, so you would see it as normal, just like we see eating cows, pigs, chickens etc as normal.
 
Cannibalism is usually taboo because of the posibility of infection (much as BSE in cows as a result of them being fed cow) Other than that there appears tobe little reason not to eat any animal, particularly herbivores, although we do of course eat omnivores.
 
What gets me is I have bought a few and resold them after reschooling but I can never seem to find any at that money. The cheapest one I have bought was £1200.
Everybody always goes on about these horses that are £500 or £600 but I can never seem to find them. I never make any money out of it but feel I am doing my bit so to speak as I have the room and time for them here. Seeing them go on to another career is fabulous I must say.
Why are all these cheap TBs never advertised anywhere then????
 
here here, i agree its not right!
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i brought a yearling (nice breeding mind and not unwanted as an ex-cant race mare) but she cost me 1,400.

she is a popet a darling, shes going to be for dressage and showing - she will (luckily) never see a race track, but i paid through the nose compared with what people say they can pick them up for!

my last TB cost a lot too, ex racer 10yr old, safe 'N' sound, won his last race but they didnt want him anymore because of his age, so they dumped him on the common, no rug, no food, no shelter, poor boy was half dead when we got him. Turn out to be a dab hand at dressage and a fab Hunter. Had him until the day he died.

had other too none below 1,200
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My experience in racing is quite different - we had an owner whose wife liked their new $3M horse so much, she took him home and put him in the front paddock so everyone could see how pretty he was. We never got to race him. Imagine that conversation between the husband and trainer - well my wife likes him, and wants to have him in the front paddock. He was quite a good one too!!
 
Thats life Im afraid - surely the girl should have done a little more research into her chosen career - thats what happens to unwanted TB's - and lets hope it happens to more so we wont end up with the broken, neglected ones we have on the market now just waiting for some stupid teenager to scrape together £600 to have a horse!
Rather a dead horse than a neglected one.
 
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Everybody always goes on about these horses that are £500 or £600 but I can never seem to find them.

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lmao you cant liken eating human meat to eating cat or dog. Your personal choice is yours but face it people eat animals - they always have and always will.
 
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Horrible for the groom, but a fair introduction to the realities of overproduction for the racing industry. I am actually pleased that the trainer was responsible enough to do the right thing by these horses and not just consign them to an uncertain future

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i agree with this post 100%
 
I think in general most of us agree that pts was an option that is definately preferable to the horses being passed around and neglected in the future. BUT, we do not know that would of happened. It doesn't matter to me that the trainer 'did the right thing or not', what matters is that to me it is fundamentally WRONG. I do not have the answer nor pretend to but it makes me fell bad. Most of us on this forum love horses so to us it will never be right. I do sometimes feel some shame in that I eat meat and yet distinguish clearly between animals that I eat and those that I have an affinity for. I am glad I feel that shame in a way for I never want to be so hard that it doesn't bother me anymore. xx
 
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I am glad I feel that shame in a way for I never want to be so hard that it doesn't bother me anymore.

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i hope that isn't aimed just at me...because that would not only be totally untrue but a little unfair, TBH.
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I am glad I feel that shame in a way for I never want to be so hard that it doesn't bother me anymore.

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i hope that isn't aimed just at me...because that would not only be totally untrue but a little unfair, TBH.
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Sorry haven't read all the other posts tbh. Not aimed at anyone in particular, just having a general rant at myself mainly!
 
The wastage of horses destined for the race horse industry or from the race horse industry is a total disgarce. Thousands of horses are disgarded by their breeders, trainers or owners. Many of those that become owners or part owners or members of syndicates have very little understanding or interest in the welfare of the horses and are only interested in the thrill of the race and their horse winning.

I believe that the solution to this issue is that every breeder of a thoroughbred should have to deposit into a central charitable fund a sufficent sum of money which would pay for the keep of the horse for the rest of it's average natural life. Taking in to account todays cost of keeping a horse that lives on average for 20 years I would suggest a sum of £160,000 per horse. This may effect the economics of the race horse industry but would do justice for horses.
 
Blimey, I can't believe that so many people had no idea that this is exactly what goes on in the racing industry. I'm willing to bet that only a very small percentage actually make it as racehorses, so where did you THINK all the others went? Just because they are well-bred, doesn't guarantee good confirmation, and they are so in-bred and "pushed on" that their temperaments can be questionable. Exactly the same thing goes on in the greyhound/whippet racing world. It is just collateral damage in the eyes of people involved in the racing world. A friend of mine who was a regular hunter told me that it was also common practice to buy up broken down steeplechasers and jumpers to have a days hunting on - if the tendon or whatever goes while you are out in the field, the horse is shot by the hunt - it only costs a few hundred pounds for a day's "entertainment".
 
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Blimey, I can't believe that so many people had no idea that this is exactly what goes on in the racing industry. I'm willing to bet that only a very small percentage actually make it as racehorses, so where did you THINK all the others went? Just because they are well-bred, doesn't guarantee good confirmation, and they are so in-bred and "pushed on" that their temperaments can be questionable. Exactly the same thing goes on in the greyhound/whippet racing world. It is just collateral damage in the eyes of people involved in the racing world. A friend of mine who was a regular hunter told me that it was also common practice to buy up broken down steeplechasers and jumpers to have a days hunting on - if the tendon or whatever goes while you are out in the field, the horse is shot by the hunt - it only costs a few hundred pounds for a day's "entertainment".

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Well when the 'tendon goes' i hope they are on board and hit the deck with a good thump. Hideous.
 
I used to work for a vet and we had a young racing greyhound brought in one day to be PTS. Apparently, it wasn't fast enough. I was horrified that the vet would do it but he pointed out that if he didn't, it would probably be taken back the kennels and "walloped over the head with a bit of 4 by 2" (his exact words) so at least the poor creature went painlessly. Same for the TBs in original post. Rescues are bursting at the seams at the moment.
 








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Blimey, I can't believe that so many people had no idea that this is exactly what goes on in the racing industry. I'm willing to bet that only a very small percentage actually make it as racehorses, so where did you THINK all the others went? Just because they are well-bred, doesn't guarantee good confirmation, and they are so in-bred and "pushed on" that their temperaments can be questionable. Exactly the same thing goes on in the greyhound/whippet racing world. It is just collateral damage in the eyes of people involved in the racing world. A friend of mine who was a regular hunter told me that it was also common practice to buy up broken down steeplechasers and jumpers to have a days hunting on - if the tendon or whatever goes while you are out in the field, the horse is shot by the hunt - it only costs a few hundred pounds for a day's "entertainment".

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Well when the 'tendon goes' i hope they are on board and hit the deck with a good thump. Hideous.

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if thats true it would much Better still if they hit the deck and broke there neck... .
 
very sad, I know someone that has just been given a 18month old filly because the trainer said it was no good for racing (owner sent to trainers yard to commence future training etc but due to confirmation faults would not be a good enought to train to rac), so it would have to be sent back to the owner, were it would be PTS. Thankfully the trainer went out of his way and rang round and found the filly a home.
 
I have heard many sickening stories from people who used to work in the racing industry were the ones that were no good were shipped off to market and there they was sold for meat going onto horses being chucked out on the commons and left for dead along with 8 - 10 month old foals being raced up the tracks with one fillys back breaking and then being left until it was settled with the insurance before being put down. Nothing anymore surprises me what people do to animals.

Altough i think it is kinder that they are shot than left for dead/neglect somewhere else but its still a sick practice and i have said for a long while its about time Everyone thinks twice before breeding and more regulations to control breeding of any dog/cat/horse so the hope there is less unwanted/useless/neglected animals!
 
While I agree that being pts is better than pushed pillar to post in theory, what sickens me is that the lass wanted to give one of them a home but couldn't afford the £600 asked on the day, surely if they are shot by the hunt the trainer/owners wouldn't have received any money for the carcase?

If the lass could have afforded the cost of keeping a TB (mine is bloody expensive!) why not just let her take one!?

The breeders/owners/trainers/whole industry of racehorses and greyhounds should be held accountable, as another poster said some kind of percentage from racing should be ploughed into retraining the healthy animals and also for publicising just how versatile they are, give me one over a warmblood any day!
 
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