Disunited training advice

[crakkers]

Hi,

I know nothing about horses! But someone I know owns and rides a horse that they tell me is disunited. To correct this when riding they tell me you raise your heel to the area of the bottom corner of the numnah and press in with your heel.

this seems awkward to me and so I started to think about some form of product that could he made and fitted to the numnah or saddle that could press on the horse in this area, with the press of a button.

They laughed and said this wouldn't be possible or work. They then started to talk about passoas? that do this anyway.

what I find difficult to understand is that the small amount of pressure that could be applied by a heel could shift the hind of a horse, especially in the area of the numnah.

what opinon do any experts or horse whisperers have? Most advice on line appears to be about stopping cantering and begin walking and or call the vet.

can you shed any light or opinion on these matters?

 

[spike123]

having taken 2 years to sort my horses pelvis out and about 3 months of lessons to ensure that im asking properly and to help him overcome remembered discomfort i highly doubt it's as simple as what you have been told.

 

[Rollin]

My young stallion started disuniting. We called in an Osteopath and after one session he stopped disuniting. We think he had hurt himself in the field or when rolling over.

Has the horse always done this?

 

[Auslander]

I'm sure you COULD develop something that applied pressure in that area, but as the information you were supplied with was fundamentally incorrect, it would be pointless. Your info source is talking utter rubbish

 

[stormox]

If your horse goes disunited in canter it is usually due to weakness. The easiest way is to come back to a balanced trot and then give the aids for canter again. As the horse gets stronger behind, the canter will improve. You could also practice walk-canter, then halt-canter, and finally rein-back to canter. All these excercises help strengthen the hindquarters, and you will find the canter will improve.
I wouldn't want a horse to learn to change and change back until the canter is really established and you are teaching flying changes when YOU ask.
Also I think it is totally ridiculous to suggest you EVER bring your leg that far back!!!

 

[Fun Times]

Unless its a young or unfit or unschooled horse, I would associate regular disuniting with a back, pelvis, sacroiliac or stifle issue, in which case its a vet job. I once went to view a mature horse who had been for eight weeks training with a dressage rider. When she rode it, it didn't disunite but with a less "strong" rider it did it a lot. She explained to me that she prevented it disuniting with the position of her lower leg and her weight. I walked away as to me it screamed that the horse had a problem but she was able to ride it through it. I would have been less concerned if it hadn't been a mature established horse that had already had two months training with her.

 

[crakkers]

Thanks for input so far. I strongly get the impression trying to correct disunitedness with your heel and or a device in place of your heel will im no shape or way work!?

keep posting your advice please.

 

[spike123]

just out of interest is the horse you mention disuniting doing flying changes? reason i ask is that to get a good change you need to apply the aids quite firmly and really move your outside leg back. However if the horse is disuniting every time that it's asked to canter then there's definitely something wrong short of what's already been mentioned above about young and unfit horses.

 

[Fun Times]

Thanks for input so far. I strongly get the impression trying to correct disunitedness with your heel and or a device in place of your heel will im no shape or way work!?

keep posting your advice please.

I can't see how a device would work. As I mentioned above, irespective of whether you use a device or yor heel or any other part of your anatomy to avoid the horse going disunited, it is important to investigate why it is happening.