DIY livery cost South East

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I have a small yard in Kent, not far from Canterbury. We currently charge £125/pcm for DIY livery (indoor barn stable, all year turnout, use of all facilities). I recently looked at another local yard and they charge £135/month and I'd say they have similar if not lesser facilities and are further from the city. We've got a good set up (not super smart, but safe, well built etc) and are only a few miles from the city.

So my question is - what do you pay for DIY livery in Kent/South East? I haven't upped prices since I set up 3 years ago, and as I'm sure a lot of YOs find it makes absolutely no profit. I don't run it to make a living, just to fund my own horses, but I'm also not a charity so if I'm charging too little I will change that as it will go some way towards new jumps and other yard goodies!

Please only comment regarding Kent/SE, what DIY costs in North Yorkshire or Wales isn't really relevant :-)
 
I'm an hour so away from Kent & pay £100 for diy including stable (not exactly the best stables ever but they'll do!), all year turnout (24/7 in summer) and a lovely large outdoor school. Oh plus storage for hay/bedding and either a tack room or shed each :)
 
Cost vary massively even across the SE. Im in Surrey, just outside of the M25, i pay nearly double for diy, fab grazing, school, fab hacking, hay and feed can be bought on site if you wanted, services like turn out and bring in extra but feeding and haying included.
Its about as perfect as it gets bar the odd niggle (everywhere has them tbh) it is worth the money for lack of b****ing alone!
Im not sure if that is of any help as where I am is an expensive area full stop so prices are reflected as such. It is possibly the most expensive diy yard i have seen but as i said worth it. Most of the going rate round hear varies from £150 to £200 for basic diy (field and stable) better the facilities the more it cost which is fair.
 
I used to be liveried in Canterbury at £120 a month with use of 2 schools, lunge pen, great hacking, stables, jumps, running water to paddocks and hay included!

I'm in Maidstone now and pay £150 a month for a field with no water to the paddocks, nice stable and a large school, ok hacking, shared tack room and storage. It's BHS approved too and is very friendly so I don't mind the cost but wouldn't want it to go up any more.

So for what you are offering, you could easily charge up to £150. Where abouts are you if you don't mind me asking?
 
£150 per calendar month. Small yard of 11 horses. Decent school but not well lit, individual paddocks, great hacking, lots of storage. No services.
 
Not in Kent - in Berkshire - but still SouthEast . . . I currently pay £200/month but the facilities are amazing . . . moving in a few weeks to a yard that charges £170/month which is about the going rate around here.

For that you get a floodlit outdoor school with a decent surface, a decent-sized stable, secure tack room, toilet, feed room and two acres of grazing per horse. Oh, and a YO who pretty much leaves you alone as long as fields are poo picked and yard is tidy.

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I'm just outside Canterbury and pay £70 a week for part livery (only have to go up once a day) includes fantastic hacking for miles, rubber school, all hay/bedding, small xc course etc. the only thing that's missing is floodlights!! I was at a purely DIY yard a year or so ago just outside ashford and paid £125 a month, for a stable, rubber school all year turnout and amazing hacking. :) but both of those yards are very low key no more than 5 over liveries...
I would say that what you're charging is reasonable.
 
Near Tenterden DIY £60 a month for large American-barn stable, small but adequate outdoor school and as much turnout as we want. It certainly isn't smart but it's a lovely place to be and the horses are happy and relaxed.
 
tobiano1984 said:
I have a small yard in Kent, not far from Canterbury. We currently charge £125/pcm for DIY livery (indoor barn stable, all year turnout, use of all facilities). I recently looked at another local yard and they charge £135/month and I'd say they have similar if not lesser facilities and are further from the city. We've got a good set up (not super smart, but safe, well built etc) and are only a few miles from the city.

So my question is - what do you pay for DIY livery in Kent/South East? I haven't upped prices since I set up 3 years ago, and as I'm sure a lot of YOs find it makes absolutely no profit. I don't run it to make a living, just to fund my own horses, but I'm also not a charity so if I'm charging too little I will change that as it will go some way towards new jumps and other yard goodies!

Please only comment regarding Kent/SE, what DIY costs in North Yorkshire or Wales isn't really relevant :-)
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My diy is 45 per week but if you do a day of de pooing its 41 a week.

I put diy charges up 1 pound per week per year
 
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im on a highly commended BHS approved yard with indoor and outdoor schools, gallops, horse walker, hot wash, solarium, drying room and more plus good 24/7 turnout in summer and daily winter turn out and pay £72 a week but that does include hay or haylage and bedding plus feeds are given for that as well.
 
Sussex coast between Worthing/Brighton. £140 a month. Indoor barn stabling, individual storage and hay barn. 20x40 school unlit, jump paddock, hacking round farm and direct on South Downs, fab grazing all year round, 24/7 in summer, small turnout groups.. No services and no one living on site though.

As someone else said though it really varies from local area to area particularly depending on access to the downs.
 
I am near Folkestone.

I rent my own place which has several acres of grazing (the horse field is 3 acres and back fields which I can use for a couple of months in winter are 5-6acres). I also have water, electricity and 4 stables. No school but I rent next door's. I pay less for this for two horses than I would for one on livery at your yard.

That said, your livery does seem a fair price as having been at livery yards before the going rate is between £100-£130 for those facilities. I'm sure if it's a nice yard with a nice atmosphere and not overstocked people would pay slightly more.
 
I'm in Kent and pay £150 for stable in a barn and a soggy field! I think I am paying too much for this and hence I am looking for something else with proper facilities for my money!
 
I used to pay £38pw/£165pcm for a stable (indoor barn) that flooded, small storage cupboard that flooded, 2x schools that flooded (one always has a huge puddle), round pen that flooded, rubbish & overcrowded fields (yes, they flooded, too!!) with unsafe fencing and too many horses. No grazing at all. Loads of off road, but it would also get waterlogged with huge puddles on the tracks leading onto the farmland.

Expensive because of location. This is in Bromley.

I now pay £380pm for full livery on a private yard in Orpington with an indoor school and large outdoor school.
 
I am West of Maidstone and pay £145 a month for DIY. This is stable, field, storage, use of outdoor school and hire of indoor school at discounted rate as well as daily turnout and 24/7 turnout in summer. I saw a yard in Meopham that charged £170 a month for DIY. Herd turnout, stable, use of two outdoor schools, an indoor school, storage and good hacking.
 
Im in East Sussex. I currently pay £80 per month for DIY. Its only a 6 horse yard with no school but good hacking and all year turn out and option to have them out 24/7 as soon as the field dries out in the late spring.
 
I'm at a yard near Canterbury and I pay £180 pcm for DIY livery. The stables are 10x12 and we have a 20x40 sand and rubber school. The grazing is okay but not the best and okay hacking, most of it is road work. To get anywhere you have to go across motorway bridges and hack for about 45min before you reach any decent bridle ways. On top of the £180pcm we also HAVE to have a minimum of either 2 lessons which adds an extra £36 to the bill so actually what you're paying is £216 pcm. Which imo is very expensive.
 
Livery costs differ depending on what side of Canterbury you are! I was half an hour one side of Canterbury and moved half an hour the other side of Canterbury and my livery costs nearly doubled! Unfortunately one side has a bigger selection of yards whereas it seems the other side is a bit more limited on the yard front and therefore they can charge more!
 
dressageEnthusiast said:
I'm at a yard near Canterbury and I pay £180 pcm for DIY livery. The stables are 10x12 and we have a 20x40 sand and rubber school. The grazing is okay but not the best and okay hacking, most of it is road work. To get anywhere you have to go across motorway bridges and hack for about 45min before you reach any decent bridle ways. On top of the £180pcm we also HAVE to have a minimum of either 2 lessons which adds an extra £36 to the bill so actually what you're paying is £216 pcm. Which imo is very expensive.
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Wow that's expensive! Is it a very smart yard and does that include hay and straw? We're only 10 mins east of Canterbury and although the yard isn't swanky and new the stables are big (at least 13x12, some bigger) and indoors and the school is 25x50m. Great hacking too - and £125pcm exc hay and straw - maybe I should be putting prices up...! The compulsory lessons are a bit much!
 
I currently pay £160 for DIY in the south east for nice stabling, good turnout, ok hacking, floodlit school, walker etc. I previously paid £100 for DIY with nice stabling, ok turnout, good hacking and no school. Smarter yards around my area with more facilities charge up to £350 for DIY (including hay but no bedding)
 
I'm not in your area so no point in me telling you what I pay, but last week I thought I was going to lose my yard as YO was going to sell. She has since changed her mind and I'm so relieved. I'd gladly pay a good bit more for my yard, so if you think your liveries are happy there and you need to up your prices I wouldn't worry about it.

I'm pleasantly surprised at the prices though, I imagined anywhere in the SE would be lots more expensive than S. Wales where I am, but it's pretty much the same.
 
I have a very big box, individual and good grazing, reasonable sand school (no lighting), great hacking and assisted DIY, I pay £150 PCM inc trailer parking, and then extra on top for feeding, haying, bringing in etc...
 
tobiano1984 said:
I have a small yard in Kent, not far from Canterbury. We currently charge £125/pcm for DIY livery (indoor barn stable, all year turnout, use of all facilities). I recently looked at another local yard and they charge £135/month and I'd say they have similar if not lesser facilities and are further from the city. We've got a good set up (not super smart, but safe, well built etc) and are only a few miles from the city.

So my question is - what do you pay for DIY livery in Kent/South East? I haven't upped prices since I set up 3 years ago, and as I'm sure a lot of YOs find it makes absolutely no profit. I don't run it to make a living, just to fund my own horses, but I'm also not a charity so if I'm charging too little I will change that as it will go some way towards new jumps and other yard goodies!

Please only comment regarding Kent/SE, what DIY costs in North Yorkshire or Wales isn't really relevant :)
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Goodness, prices have changed a lot since then. What do you charge now, if you are still going?
 
Sussexbythesea said:
£150 per calendar month. Small yard of 11 horses. Decent school but not well lit, individual paddocks, great hacking, lots of storage. No services.
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This yard closed down last year and by the end I was paying £200 a month. Yard had doubled in horse numbers and grazing wasn’t quite as generous.
 
I charge £170 per month in Oxfordshire for grass livery, I do charge for services and hay on top (they all have to be fed together as they live out in pairs or threes). Good safe facilities with a school, xc field and good hacking. Stables are available if they are needed occasionally or for box rest. No poo picking to do (we harrow and rotate). Might not be exactly Kent! - but probably comparable. I would imagine the price depends massively on local availability - round here there is no one else with a similar setup. Overall it covers the costs for my own horses and some of the maintenance, not including bigger projects that are more investments.
 
tobiano1984 said:
I have a small yard in Kent, not far from Canterbury. We currently charge £125/pcm for DIY livery (indoor barn stable, all year turnout, use of all facilities). I recently looked at another local yard and they charge £135/month and I'd say they have similar if not lesser facilities and are further from the city. We've got a good set up (not super smart, but safe, well built etc) and are only a few miles from the city.

So my question is - what do you pay for DIY livery in Kent/South East? I haven't upped prices since I set up 3 years ago, and as I'm sure a lot of YOs find it makes absolutely no profit. I don't run it to make a living, just to fund my own horses, but I'm also not a charity so if I'm charging too little I will change that as it will go some way towards new jumps and other yard goodies!

Please only comment regarding Kent/SE, what DIY costs in North Yorkshire or Wales isn't really relevant :)
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Mine is £ 59 per week, facilities and grazing, equipment storage and tack room and hay storage and bedding storage and stable Bucks
 
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