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serena2005

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Sorry but I have to get this off my chest so when I speak to the yard owner I am not fuming!

I am on a diy yard where we all agreed to bring in all the horses at 4pm in the winter, so regardless if the owner of any particular horse was there or not, whoever was there at 4 would bring in all horses.

Through the winter one person decides the horses didn't want to be out till 4 so started bringing in earlier. Ok that's fine on rainy and miserable days, but when the weather is nice I like my horses to make the most of it, so one day I asked for mine to be left so I could get in at 4.

This obviously ruffled a few feathers as now they purposely leave my horses out, even if only one is out!

Now I know I asked one day for them to be left out but does that over rule the common rule of never leave a horse out alone!?
I would never leave a horse out alone, but today I find out my old boy was left. I. So angry but I know when I confront the other liveries they will say " well you said you didn't want them in"
 
Are you sure people haven't simply misunderstood what you said? Maybe if your horse was left out alone when the weather was nice, they now assume he is okay to be left and you don't want him in before 4pm.
 
This sounds like a bit of simple mis-communication to me, not a deliberate attempt to p>€$ you off! Simply (and calmly) re-explain your wishes to all the relevant people and see how it goes. .... ie .... OK to bring in earlier if wet/miserable, leave out if weather ok unless horse is only one out, then bring in regardless. .... Or something like that. Add appropriate smile/please/thank you ..... I'm sure it will get sorted.
 
I have said to them before I don't want any of my horses left out alone, and I thought that the amount of times I had said it, I had made it quite clear.

There is definitely no misunderstanding, the ring leader has it in for me! She works her way through the yard pushing out the people that don't do as she wants.
 
Greylegs said:
This sounds like a bit of simple mis-communication to me, not a deliberate attempt to p>€$ you off! Simply (and calmly) re-explain your wishes to all the relevant people and see how it goes. .... ie .... OK to bring in earlier if wet/miserable, leave out if weather ok unless horse is only one out, then bring in regardless. .... Or something like that. Add appropriate smile/please/thank you ..... I'm sure it will get sorted.
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Haha yes this is usually my method of approach with this woman, but she really doesn't like anyone going against the grain.
 
I think you are either ok with people getting him in when it suits them to get all the horses in or you are not, it is a DIY and there has been a group agreement and you have been the one to move the goalposts (so to speak). So I don't think a misunderstanding is a surprise.
 
If you want your horses left out there wouldn't be a problem. Why did they leave one of yours out and bring the others in?
 
twiggy2 said:
I think you are either ok with people getting him in when it suits them to get all the horses in or you are not, it is a DIY and there has been a group agreement and you have been the one to move the goalposts (so to speak). So I don't think a misunderstanding is a surprise.
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The agreement was for the horses to be brought in at 4, not when this woman decided they had been out long enough.
 
Arzada said:
If you want your horses left out there wouldn't be a problem. Why did they leave one of yours out and bring the others in?
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One is in due to lameness. I spoke to someone in the week about being worried he'd be left alone and I was reassured they wouldn't leave him alone
 
They probably feel like they can't win. Whatever they do will prob be wrong!!

Was your horse tearing around like a maniac? If so I might have a grumble. If not I'd suck it up.
 
ihatework said:
They probably feel like they can't win. Whatever they do will prob be wrong!!

Was your horse tearing around like a maniac? If so I might have a grumble. If not I'd suck it up.
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They get in them and leave them out whenever they fancy, it just so happened today he wasnt brought in and nothing else was left with him.

The last time one of mine was left she was so stressed, galloping around, foaming sweat, and went down with colic. I'm not willing to put my horses at risk, regardless of how they might handle beige left, today he was fine but another day he was running up and down like a headless chicken
 
Illusion100 said:
Then why was one of your horses brought in and your older lad left out on his own? Surely people can count?
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The other one is in as she is lame, but I had spoken to other people on the yard about my concerns that if they bring in early he shouldn't be left alone, and I was reassured he wouldn't be left.
 
My liveries get their horses in whenever they fancy, today 2 came and rode in the early afternoon, at weekends surely they can be flexible if they want to ride, get in early to fit in with other aspects of life, I would imagine when you asked for yours to be left until 4pm they thought you meant every day and it was unfortunate he was left alone rather than intentional

Getting 15 horses in is a lot to expect, especially at weekends when I would think most people are not working and want to spend some time with their own horse, I like to get mine all in at pretty much the same time but most are in pairs so it is easy to just bring in a pair and leave the rest without any having a breakdown.
 
serena2005 said:
They get in them and leave them out whenever they fancy, it just so happened today he wasnt brought in and nothing else was left with him.

The last time one of mine was left she was so stressed, galloping around, foaming sweat, and went down with colic. I'm not willing to put my horses at risk, regardless of how they might handle beige left, today he was fine but another day he was running up and down like a headless chicken
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Put your horses out together, that way they won't be left alone and you can bring them in yourself.

Or buddy up with another livery and work it out between you who will go up and get pair of horses in.

Or go onto full livery where this problem is then solved.
 
Tough one this, if I was bringing the horses in and wanted mine in early, I would bring the last one in with them. I would be thinking well if ****** wants their horse out later then they will have to leave it out on its own. Or get it in and come up at 4pm.


ON one side you cannot expect the bringer in to leave their horse out just for you. If you were the bringer in then fair enough, but if I wanted mine in early and I was the bringer then I would get mine in.
On the other side it is not nice knowing your horse is on it's own, maybe you just have to go up daily and bring yours in or go up early and turn out early so it makes up the extra early on in the day so can come in and still have the quote of field time.
 
Ok, I think that the other liveries were happy to bring in earlier and felt after what you had said about wanting your horse out as long as possible, bringing in at the same time as theirs may have upset you.

I doubt they left your lad out to upset you but feared they may also have upset you to bring him in with the others.

Miscommunication is the issue here, don't expect others to read your mind! Spell it out to people, some of us are drastically stoopid! :p
 
be positive said:
My liveries get their horses in whenever they fancy, today 2 came and rode in the early afternoon, at weekends surely they can be flexible if they want to ride, get in early to fit in with other aspects of life, I would imagine when you asked for yours to be left until 4pm they thought you meant every day and it was unfortunate he was left alone rather than intentional

Getting 15 horses in is a lot to expect, especially at weekends when I would think most people are not working and want to spend some time with their own horse, I like to get mine all in at pretty much the same time but most are in pairs so it is easy to just bring in a pair and leave the rest without any having a breakdown.
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Of course people get in and ride whatever time they like, but the majority of the yard would have been out and brought in around the usual time. So even if they were staggered throughout the day coming in by there own owners, someone made a decision to leave one horse out. Which I think is wrong.
I have been there on numerous occasions where someone else's horse has been left, knowing she wants him out, so I left my boy out with him, and she would then bring the two in. Or phoned to inform he was out alone and I would get him in if she wanted.
 
I am a bit confussed.

So did you ask the other liveries to leave your horse out on its own if the weather was good as they were catching in too early for your liking? If so then you are relying on the other liveries to think about what weather you think is ok for your horse to be left out till you arrive which is a bit subjective.

I think you just approach them and say there has been a misunderstanding and that whatever the weather your horse does need to come in at the same time as the others even if it is early and you have not got their yet.

I don't think you can expect others to leave their horse out later than they want to just to please you.
 
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I think while your horse is in as lame you will just have to suck up that your other horse will have to come in early with the others. When you've a pair to be left out together it's a different matter, the others don't have to be involved with your horses. It's not full livery, you can't expect your fellow yard members to have to leave their horses that they want in out just to please you.
 
I am so pleased that we don't get this sort of stuff where I keep my mare, I don't get involved in feeding/haying others, I turn out mine and my cousins and she brings them in. Of course if there is an issues I always help out but on a day to day basis if someone wants me to do something they can ask and I will say yes or no and give them a costing for me to do whatever it is, injuries etc are different and I am happy to help/lend stuff etc.
 
SO1 said:
I am a bit confussed.

So did you ask the other liveries to leave your horse out on its own if the weather was good as they were catching in too early for your liking? If so then you are relying on the other liveries to think about what weather you think is ok for your horse to be left out till you arrive which is a bit subjective.

I think you just approach them and say there has been a misunderstanding and that whatever the weather your does need to come in at the same time as the others even if it is early and you have not got their yet.
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the original plan was all the horses came in at 4 to avoid gate issues.
One person on the yard decided that she wanted them in early. At first this was fine, but when the days started getting lighter I didn't see why they needed to be in earlier.

So one particular nice day I asked for mine to be left.

Now some days they bring them in and others they don't.
I wouldn't usually mind but one of mine in on box rest lame and I voiced my concerns earlier in the week about the old boy being left alone. And I was reassured he would be brought in.

It was never subject to weather if they came in early or not. But I had thought it was clear that i didnt either of my horses left alone.
 
serena2005 said:
the original plan was all the horses came in at 4 to avoid gate issues.
One person on the yard decided that she wanted them in early. At first this was fine, but when the days started getting lighter I didn't see why they needed to be in earlier.

So one particular nice day I asked for mine to be left.

Now some days they bring them in and others they don't.
I wouldn't usually mind but one of mine in on box rest lame and I voiced my concerns earlier in the week about the old boy being left alone. And I was reassured he would be brought in.

It was never subject to weather if they came in early or not. But I had thought it was clear that i didnt either of my horses left alone.
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But hopefully this thread shows that it might be a case of confusion - I doubt anyone is deliberately trying to do the "wrong" thing. I would just have a chat with people and try to make it clearer, rather than getting annoyed. Bear in mind that, if they are confused about whether to get him in or not, they might have thought they would see how he was and, when he seemed fine alone, decided to leave him. Rather than that they just couldn't be bothered.
 
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