DIY yards- leaving horses on their own?

There is not a manager on our yard, it is pure DIY and we all manage quite well. No one would leave another persons horse out if it gets upset on its own.

Fortunately nobody takes the p*** and we all happily help one another out.

I wouldnt leave a horse out if it was upset anyway unless the owner had specifically stated to leave it.
 
hudsonw said:
Leave it. I have to pay the YO £1.50 a time to bring in and it's something I do as soon as the clocks change. Partly due to the weather being vile and also because I don't want to be trudging down to the field in the dark. If I have to pay then so should they. If they can't afford or are too tight then that's their choice. Their horse their choice.
I share a field with 2 other horses, the YO brings in mine and one other. The other horse is left out until the owner gets him in. People come up to me and tell me he's running up and down the fence...might sound harsh but what am I meant to do about it? Just because I'm a responsible owner that looks after my horse I should be responsible for other liveries horses?
Whole point of being on DIY is you do it yourself!!!
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Are you KIDDING me?!? You sound like some of the people that were at my last yard, inconsiderate people with no horse sense.. Incredible!

I can understand that you dont want to be doing this every day but surely a word with the YO and the horses owner to suggest their horse is going nuts so it may be an idea to pay before they do themselves or someone else an injury.. or maybe they are just as inconsiderate towards their horse as you :rolleyes:
 
ginadrummond said:
Goodness me. I am sooooo glad I have mine at home now. Some of these attitudes are appalling. My only supposition is that the people writing them are not horse owners or are never in the same situation and therefore cannot visualise the predicament caused by leaving out a lone horse.

Incidentally, if a horse does become distressed as it is alone, then it may be really hard to handle when its poor owner gets there.

You can desensitise most of them to this though - but not the time of year to start this!
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totally agree with the above.
i am on DIY and my work hours have changed so i am the last down to bring in, and someone ALWAYS gets my horse in, and I return the favours at weekends, i will turn out and bring in.
i think its very selfish to take a "not my problem" attitude, its not the horses fault the owner is not there, so why should the horse suffer?
i always put a horse first, not the owner!
ill get shot down for that, but thats how i feel about it. and im so grateful to the people who do bring my horse in.
 
Bosworth said:
As a YO i include this in the contract, everyone is expected to bring in the last horse along with their own. All horses here are used to being lead in pairs, with any other horse. And i would be extremely annoyed if one horse was left out on its own to stress.
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not only that (good for you by the way) what a mess they make of the turn out and tbh my first priority is the horse and if its hooling and the owner is annoyed about me bringing it in she/he is more than welcome to voice their opinion, and come and have a chat!!!!!!! but i will still do the same next time for the sake of the horse and for the sake of the turnout (ground, and therefor other peoples horses)!!!!!!
 
I would always bring in (assuming I could handle the horse - if not, I would take a member of the yard staff with me to help).
However, some owners on DIY yards start to get quite used to the 'routine' of someone else bringing in their horse for them. When I had my mare, she was out with another, very skatty, very hard to handle mare. When I brought my horse in, I would always get the mare if her owner wasn't up. Since we were up on the yard at around the same time, it started off only happening occasionally if owner was running late or I was up early.
However, as the evenings started to draw in, I found the owner coming up later and later, obviously confident in the knowledge her horse would be brought in for her (by me, in the dark).
I was not best pleased, and had a word about it with her, but nothing changed. She knew I wasn't going to let her horse suffer by leaving it out, so took the p*ss basically.
I was pleased when she left.
 
OWLIE185 said:
Find the yard owner and get them to bring it in if it can't stay out by itself. After all they are running the place and take ultimate resposibility for the horses on their yard.
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Quite right...our YO chooses to leave out horses that don't pay her to bring in. That's between the YO and that livery and not my place to be going around getting in other peoples horses.

I help my fellow DIYers if they ask and they help me. I feed peoples horses in the morning and muck one ladies out and she does things for me like a late night check. However it's not my place to go around looking after other peoples horses because they can't be bothered to either get down their earlier or pay for a bring in service.
 
normally bring in....i do this for my friends....

but nothing has ever been left on its own in the fields...

but tbh people should have other arrangements for darker nights.... like ask if their horse can be brought in if it son its own... takes 30 seconds to ask.
 
Leg_end said:
Are you KIDDING me?!? You sound like some of the people that were at my last yard, inconsiderate people with no horse sense.. Incredible!

I can understand that you dont want to be doing this every day but surely a word with the YO and the horses owner to suggest their horse is going nuts so it may be an idea to pay before they do themselves or someone else an injury.. or maybe they are just as inconsiderate towards their horse as you :rolleyes:
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No I'm not kidding, i have left a note for the owner as I never see her to talk to her face to face. I have explained her horse is running around, churning up the field and a week later it's still the last out.
I told her about the YO service and she hasn't used the service either because she's tight or can't afford the £1.50
I am not paying to make sure my horse is in early just to tramp down to the field in the pitch black to get someone elses horse in.
The YO is fully aware and the issue is between the YO and that livery, not me.
 
I'd call YO or owner to advise horse is out on its own. If it starts to panic at all and YO isnt around to go catch in then i'd bring the horse in myself but would hope this doesnt happen often. I am happy to help but its important that owners make arrangements for their horses to be brought in if they cant be there early enough especially at this time of year. Soon i'll be asking my YO to bring my horse in by 4pm as it will be too dark for me to go catch in after work.
 
Always would bring in - but we have a prior arrangement to do this anyway. I personally would not be very happy to leave a horse out by itself and run the risk of something happening. Of course it also depends on what time of day it is....
 
It depends on the horse - is it ok out by itself and it is ok to lead in if you need to?

If it is ok to handle, then yes I would bring in, but I am not prepared now to risk myself handling something that would rear or attempt to gallop off. I have trained my two to be good to handle by anyone and really am not wanting to deal with a nightmare type, plus there is also the insurance aspect. My two are insured for anyone to handle with my permission only. If the horse was a bugger to handle, I would call the owner and say I will be bringing mine in at xxx can you get yours in. I can normally tell people a week in advance what times I will be bringing in.

Where I am now, the horses are all good to handle so I would just bring them in and then go and get my two. During the week, the YO is paid to bring my in before dark.

I do also think that some owners take the pee out of others and are unwilling to pay for their horses to be brought in at the end of the day and leave it to others to do, and not offer any payment or return help. I would in this case, after a few times getting in, make it clear that I would not be getting their horse in at night from this point on.

Most DIY yards, people talk and help each other out, but there are always the few that ruin the system.
 
Bring it in.

If i new it was happy on its own and the owner was happy for it to be left then yeah leave it.
But we all know horses are heard animals and taking its friends away will make most horses get up set.

Bringing it in doesnt take long, i will even make sure its got hay and water in the stable!

Its is an un wrtiten rule at our yard and is best for the happiness of the horses.
Usually someone will even go with you and bring the other horse in and save you bringing in 2 on your own.
 
My old boy cant be left out so I arrange with the yo to bring in. Its not somebody elses responsibility to look after mine or vise versa, and some people do take the micky if they know somebody will do it for free.
 
I can actually see where Hudson is coming from but I think their YO/YM needs a boot up the backside for allowing it to happen in the first place simply because she isn't being paid. If they had any sense, they'd increase all bills to cover bringing everything in now the clock's have changed; job sorted.
Here, I never like anything left alone either out in the field or in boxes. Mine all come in and go out together like a herd of cows, I sort them out when they're in the yard which came about by a yearling clambouring over and through the hedge (and getting stuck) because its best friend and one other were being led in even though there were still four others out with it in the same field. Better safe than sorry for me.
 
It depends my boy is in a field with him and 1 or 2 others depending on weather, he is happy on his own as is one of the others. If its morning or mid day then would just bring in mine even if left the 1 out who is happy, if its the afternoon who ever owner goes up just brings in the field. But it depends on the field and horses i know all the ones on our yard who can be left alone and who cant so its just a sensible thing and we talk to eachother about it.
 
I hate leaving a distressed horse out and normally would bring it in but unless there is prior arrangement and / or reciprocal care then why should the same person always be responsible for the other persons horse? Some people always take and never give and the more you do the less they do - e.g. they think if they always wait 10 minutes longer to get to the yard they can guarantee that you will have trogged up the field in the dark and wet so they don't have to - it happens.
 
i wouldnt bring a horse in unless i had been asked. i would however inform the yard owner who lives on site and allow her to bring it in and charge the owner.

reason being as i believe has already been mention, the YO has insurance.

we have recently had an incident where a horse was left on its own (not going mad just waiting by the gate) and another livery being kind brought the horse in without the owner knowing as she had not yet arrived.

as the horse was led through the yard it kicked out and did a lot of damaged to another liverys car that was parked. lots of problems insued as obviously car owners insurance wanted to claim off horse owner, horse owner was livid as she had not asked for horse to be brought in etc etc - big hooha which ended in one livery leaving and money still not sorted.

unfortunately in todays sue culture unless the horse was in distress i would not bring it in unless the owner asked me. no matter how much you know people when it comes to money people can change - sad world isnt it, that we even have to consider these things !!!

will get off my soap box now !!!
 
We leave each others horses.

The horses are used to it, they don't panic or get upset.

There are actually some people on the yard I'd prefer not to handle my horse! (that may sound awful, but I'm not the only one that feels that way)
 
here here millitiger- I tell all my liveries that whoever brings in the penultimate horse, would they also bring in the last one please. Especially with this atrocious weather we are having. It's a bit like being the last one left at the school gates when all the other childrens mums have collected them:)
 
Leave them, other peoples horses aren't my responsibility. I don't like others handling my horse so would want a yard where there would be the only reason for someone to handle it if was an emergency.
 
quirky said:
Bring it in, unless there is a note, or I have been told it is happy to be on its own.

I never, ever leave a horse on its own, even if it is in a different paddock, I'd still go and fetch it in.
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Can't be bothered reading all the replies, but I agree with this. I am on a small DIY yard (about 12 horses) and we all know that if there is only one horse left out, bring it in and put it in a stable. It isn't a case of "not my job", for anyone who knows anyone about horses, it is common sense.
 
I believe DIY speaks for itself! Unless specifically asked leave others alone. I would be furious if someone brought mine in. That said I don't like sharing a field and keep mine separate. Both mine will stay in field alone. :)
 
Bring it in - or get someone to help me.

I have been on yards with the 'its your problem attitude', plus one were the YM couldn't catch my horse due to reasons that are unbeknown to me to this day. Thankfully I am on a yard now where we have 'never leave a horse alone policy'. My horse will panic, fret, run about, then become so hysterical that it is vitually impossible to catch him safely. He will also jump out. I share duties with another livery so he is never on his own but at the moment I keep having to get in another horse who's mum finishes work late, fair enough she has offered to turn my horse and the other one I do in the morning at weekends to make up. That's what a bit of communication does. The YM there has a hands off role but you can pay her to do stuff for you.

We do have one person who last winter was a serial leave her horse out as late as possible so someone else brings it in. This year she has left people horses on their own on a number of occaisions including mine, YM had a word with her and a notice was put up on the tack room door to remind everyone about the rule. She now is coming up earlier so just gets her own horse in.
 
The yard i'm currently on - leave it.

I know for a fact that if my horse was going insane on it's own (which he doesn't) nobody would bring him in. They're just those sort of people - look after Number 1 and ****** everybody else. If, on the other hand, somebody had gone round everybody and said "Look, if he's the last one out, please bring him in" then obviously I would. And on another note, the kind of people on my yard deliberately come late so they don't have to trek across the field to catch their own horse cos it's the last out and someone will already have done it, so not being funny but there's no chance i'm falling for that!!!
 
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Azmar said:
I believe DIY speaks for itself! Unless specifically asked leave others alone. I would be furious if someone brought mine in. That said I don't like sharing a field and keep mine separate. Both mine will stay in field alone. :)
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With you. DIY is DIY! I share mornings and holiday cover with another on my yard but both of ours will stay out alone.
 
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