pinktiger
Well-Known Member
where is the best place to buy this stuff??? From vet or net, and do you need a prescription???
many many thanx!
many many thanx!
DMSO??
- Thread starter pinktiger
- Start date
spaniel
Well-Known Member
Some vets do still keep DMSO. Ive bought over the net in the past but it was from the USA and Im pretty sure it wouldnt get passed customs now.
Id go with the vet if you can....its a very easy substance to replicate and then pass off as the real thing.
Id go with the vet if you can....its a very easy substance to replicate and then pass off as the real thing.
pinktiger
Well-Known Member
many thanx will give the vet a ring on monday!!
Mike007
Well-Known Member
purely out of interest ,what do you need it for.
pinktiger
Well-Known Member
want to use it on a splint!
aran
Well-Known Member
Most vets won't sell it to you as it's not nice stuff and is not proven to do anything useful. if you do a search on here you'll find that it causes a lot of debate.
pinktiger
Well-Known Member
ahh ok, i hadnt had a chat with my vet (who would have put me straight on the effectivness of it) yet so wasnt sure if i was gonna use it or not but thanks for the info on it.
fatpiggy
Well-Known Member
This is very commonly used in the US for all sorts of inflammatory problems. My friend had it for a nasty splint on her horse and I think the vet had to import it. Wear gloves!
spaniel
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
it's not nice stuff
[/ QUOTE ]
DMSO is inert. Its a carrier for other substances.
it's not nice stuff
[/ QUOTE ]
DMSO is inert. Its a carrier for other substances.
TarrSteps
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
Most vets won't sell it to you as it's not nice stuff and is not proven to do anything useful. if you do a search on here you'll find that it causes a lot of debate.
[/ QUOTE ]
I think you'll find the studies have given mixed results, not wholly negative ones. There doesn't seem to be much question DMSO has at least some anti-inflammatory benefit in some cases and in fact is prescribed for a few condition, most notably a form of cystitis, in people.
As above, in and of itself it's fairly innocuous. But in many cases it is mixed with other substances because of its transdermal properties (the ability to pass through skin). In fact this always scares me more - don't mix anything with DMSO you wouldn't eat or inject! Also, it can carry any substance already on the skin.
Like all things, it has its uses. I've seen it used on splints to good effect but then again, I've seen many splints resolve with no intervention at all.
Most vets won't sell it to you as it's not nice stuff and is not proven to do anything useful. if you do a search on here you'll find that it causes a lot of debate.
[/ QUOTE ]
I think you'll find the studies have given mixed results, not wholly negative ones. There doesn't seem to be much question DMSO has at least some anti-inflammatory benefit in some cases and in fact is prescribed for a few condition, most notably a form of cystitis, in people.
As above, in and of itself it's fairly innocuous. But in many cases it is mixed with other substances because of its transdermal properties (the ability to pass through skin). In fact this always scares me more - don't mix anything with DMSO you wouldn't eat or inject! Also, it can carry any substance already on the skin.
Like all things, it has its uses. I've seen it used on splints to good effect but then again, I've seen many splints resolve with no intervention at all.
pinktiger
Well-Known Member
thanx guys i dont mind the splint that much, its purely cosmetic, is a young horse and is sound on it, just medium ish in size, i think it will be reabsorbed well, and am not willing to put anything so,,, errrm,,,, so Harsh,,,, to get rid of it, think i will just live with it!!
aran
Well-Known Member
DMSO is not inert (it does form reactions and does have a pharmacological action) - we use it in the laboratories all the time and the safety forms we have to fill in are extensive (toxicity is low but we use it to interfer with DNA and as a cryoprotectant).
Vets in the US use it a lot - for anything and everything - that doesn't make it something sensible to use and certainly not without vet.
It is a solvent (that is a very good paint stripper). It also has a good list of side-effects - including causing sensitivity to light and skin ulceration. Due to its chemical properties it is readily absorbed through the skin and so is used as a carrier. Drug companies do use it in some gels but the levels that it is at is thoroughly tested for safety.
Besides - something that is soooo readily absorbed through your skin and makes your urine smell of cabbage shouldnt be used lightly!
Vets in the US use it a lot - for anything and everything - that doesn't make it something sensible to use and certainly not without vet.
It is a solvent (that is a very good paint stripper). It also has a good list of side-effects - including causing sensitivity to light and skin ulceration. Due to its chemical properties it is readily absorbed through the skin and so is used as a carrier. Drug companies do use it in some gels but the levels that it is at is thoroughly tested for safety.
Besides - something that is soooo readily absorbed through your skin and makes your urine smell of cabbage shouldnt be used lightly!
TarrSteps
Well-Known Member
It also leaves a horrendous taste in your - and your horse's - mouth.
And you get more sensitive to it over time, which I didn't believe until it happened to me, even if you don't apparently get it on your skin. I can now taste it as soon as I open a bottle of it. Scary.
Not something to be messed with. As with so many things, used knowledgeably and with sense, it has its uses. But that doesn't mean it's useful for everything.
And you get more sensitive to it over time, which I didn't believe until it happened to me, even if you don't apparently get it on your skin. I can now taste it as soon as I open a bottle of it. Scary.
Not something to be messed with. As with so many things, used knowledgeably and with sense, it has its uses. But that doesn't mean it's useful for everything.
aran
Well-Known Member
so true - even the most horrendous things have their place if used with understanding!
DMSO certainly has a role - just not used willy nilly and certainly not without understanding what the pros and cons are. I doubt it ever has a use as a method of reducing splints though - but that's a different arguement!
DMSO certainly has a role - just not used willy nilly and certainly not without understanding what the pros and cons are. I doubt it ever has a use as a method of reducing splints though - but that's a different arguement!