Do any of you know anyone that buys problem horses?

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charlie55

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Not so much of a problem horse, he just needs a telling off but hes knocked my confidence! He will rear coming in from the field if hes last out and he will rear going out if hes last in the stable! And he will also bronc in canter if you let him!! Hes knocked my confidence and i dont even want to handle him anymore let alone ride him. He works in a lovely outline when working nicely and hes also very quiet the rest of the time. Just going to and from the field if hes in a mood. I cant be bothered with advertising him and having time wasters and people wanting to make a quick buck because he is so cheap, hence wanting someone i know will sort him out. Ive tryed Matt selby and he is full so not buying. Does anyone else know of other buyers for tempermentle cheap horses?
 
Paul Clark in peterborough. I havent got his number any more. Look in the back of horse and hound. hes the one tht says any cheeky naughty horse brought cash paid etc. I assume u just want to get rid? ur not too fussed about wht he goes on to do?
 
i know its easy to get you confidence knocked, but if you look at it objectively you sound like you have a good horse 95% of the time and its only in a specific area (bringing to and from the field) that he has a problem.

could you get a trainer up to work with you on that issue? have you tried a dually collar?

would you keep him if he didn't have that issue? i know rearing can be scary and make you lose trust in a horse, but it can be worked on?
 
may be stating the obvious here, but why not just make sure that he isn't last out or last in? And when you are leading him, lead him in a chifney and lunge line.

seems a shame to send a horse off to an uncertain future when the 'problem' is with the horse's management surely?
 
Possibly - think you are in Surrey? My YO might come and have a look and see what she thinks? could be at least worth a discussion. No shame in admitting that the fun has gone out of your boy either - hope it wasn't your new one. PM if you want more details but Emily is not phased by idiotic horses but neither does she manage them by trying to dominate or bully them either.
 
define cheap?

even just as a financial thing, maybe it would pay to send him off for training for a bit and then sell him, if what he might then fetch would recoup some/ all of the training costs as compared to what you might now sell him for?

it's fair enough to move a horse on if you've lost confidence with him and you sound totally fed up but maybe sleep on it and come the morning you might feel able to take a little more time in moving him on?
 
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We had exactly the same problem last year, except I'm too stubborn to get rid of him as I know he's my dream horse, so I got a calmer, made sure that he was never last out (which involved me paying someone to bring him in over winter) I also got rid of all these fancy control/rope headcollars and just used a normal headcollar with a long rope. (also removing the shoes for a few months makes you feel a little less worried about flailing hooves...

How cheap are you talking? Age? Height? Breed?
 
Get Tarrsteps on here to come and help you with him OP. I don't know her personally but she always comes up with thoughtful and reasoned answers that make real sense, I'm certain she can help you.

If you really want to get rid of him I should think Dave at Duckhurst Farm would buy him. But by the sounds of it you and your horse just need to be working off the same page!
 
If you definitely want to sell him, then advertise him normally.

IMO he is not a 'problem horse', he needs a change in how he's managed so that he doesn't get so upset about turning out and bringing in. Obv. a horse that rears when handle is not fun and it isn't behaviour I'd be blasé about, but if it only happens at specific times (when last in/out) then it's has a simple workaround so I don't know why he couldn't be sold through normal channels?
 
It has always been when he is last out etc but i went up to put him out this morning and he was first out and still done it. He is extremley clever and now he knows he has scared me and hes the boss he will keep going, because he can!! This morning he came down too close to me head and ripped my earing out and scrapped my neck with hes foot, then when i still wouldnt let go he turned hes bum on me! Id have never been fased by this sort of horse before but when you have your baby in the car, and the horse is running all over you, its time to end it, i cant afford to get hurt. Im definitely not worried about saying he has won! TBH i just wanted a second horse to ride while my other lad is recovering from different things, he was very very quiet when i first got him and i thought he was perfect, but now worrying weather my boy will be left in the car if this thing knocks me out is doing my head in. Hes got to go, i dont want to advertise him as i would have to ride him when someone came to view, if he knows he boss over me on the ground, i aint getting on him lol. I just want it done quick, not wait for a few weeks for just a phone call. I cant remember who asked but im in kent.
He will probably not do this with someone bigger and stronger then me, im just like an ant on the end of the leadrope with him, If he hadnt got away with it the first time he'd prob not do it again but this time he has won.
 
I will go up to turn him out tomorrow and he will be an angel, he also came in the other day and stood like a little lamb for a bath, but when he got turned out, he wanted to trot to the field, i said no and thats when he starts. He has tantrums. Perfect to bath, shoe, clip, travel etc etc. So annoying!!
 
measles said:
charlie55 - I think you have made the wise and brave decision to say enough is enough. You have a young family and your safety is paramount. Do you have an instructor who may know of someone who will take him on?
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Thankyou, im glad someone else see's my point of view, he could be a lovely horse for someone braver, just not me. In NL2 people are saying loan him out etc or get someone to help me with him but tbh he could be an angel for who ever comes to sort him out, but i know what he has done in the passed and hes too clever for hes own good, i dont think it would be long before he gets up to hes old tricks again. I just want to enjoys horses lol. Just hope where ever he goes, it works out. I mean normally i would ride him around bareback!! Its just hes tempers i cant handle.
 
Dizzle said:
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We had exactly the same problem last year, except I'm too stubborn to get rid of him as I know he's my dream horse,
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What an utterly ridiculous thing to say, how is your dream horse a pain in the arse? A dream horse is one that behaves as appropriate to the situation he is in, and fills you with joy, excitement and exhilaration.

If you don't enjoy the same things then it's not your dream horse
 
charlie55, he's psyched you out, so i would ask/pay someone else to bring him in and out until he goes... he's being dangerous and rude and needs firm experienced handling from someone who isn't afraid of him.
if i were you, i'd ship him to TarrSteps. she knows her stuff, she's smart, very experienced, big and strong (which isn't to say she'll use it, but she'll impress HIM if necessary, which might well be all he needs). He thinks he's the leader at the moment which is a bad idea. A quick attitude adjustment and he'll be a very nice boy for someone i'm sure.
If you don't send him to her, please be careful where he goes though... some dealers really are unscrupulous and although he's not your dream horse, he doesn't deserve to go down in the world just because he's gotten too big for his boots...
very best of luck finding him a place with someone who can sort out his problems.
 
I agree, send him to someone ASAP to sell him for you who really knows what they are doing. That way you are safe and he can hopefully find a good home. By selling him for more money, you should be able to recoup the livery costs. A friend of mine has a WB who walks all over her at home, she is tiny and he knew he could take the p*** out of her. He was also verging on dangerous to take in or out and also napped badly. She sent him to Chatter1 on here and he is now as good as gold. As he is on full livery, she only has to turn up to ride and is now really enjoying him again inclding good competition results. Someone else taking him down a peg or two and not standing for his nonsense was all he needed. The fact she has back up there to help her with problems has made a massive difference. However, if she takes him home for a holiday he does gradually revert... So just because he is bad with you, doesn't mean he needs to be written off entirely, he sounds like has potential to be really nice in the right home. Good luck....
 
Sounds like the right thing if you have young children. I have a similar situation with my horse.
I haven't experience of using it my self but projecthorses.co.uk has come up a few times, not alot on there are 'problem horses' but just ones who haven't got on with their owner and either they or the owners have lost confidence etc. May be worth looking in to. Also the people looking on that website are likely to understand if you then don't want to ride him when they come to view.
Hope it helps :)
 
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