Do I buy this horse? If I do am I likely to find a decent sharer? Advice please

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Firstly no pics sorry, been to see once and honestly didn't think I'd seriously think I'd be considering buying so didn't take any (plus phone which use as camera keeps switching itself off):(

Anyway this may be long so I suggest a cuppa and settle down.

A few decades ago (I'm an oldie;)) I realised that the only way I could afford a top horse was to buy one as a foal, fast forward a few years and after getting a few to 5 or 6 and realising that what I had was not top class I now have a 5 and 2 year old. The best horses I've ever had and ever likely now to have, the 2 year old is dressage bred, the 5 year old won a lot of dressage last year so I wouldn't jump him as didn't want to break him but then got bored and hes done really well sj this year and done one 1 day event which he won. Anyway my problem is I like horseball but it ruins my horses flatwork:eek:.

A friend is friends with someone who produces horses for filmwork and I've always said if he had an Iberian he would sell it would be perfect for horseball. Well this has happened. The horse in question is not good enough to show (not a great mover/confirmation) and will not do as well at dressage as what I already have, also although it has potential to be a great horseball horse will need a lot of work to turn into one so I offered a silly price thinking it would not be accepted - and it has! Do I get a third horse???? On the plus side apart from work (60hr weeks and odd hours includ weekends) there is no man or kids in my life so do make time for the horses, I have enough grass for 3 and have enough hay and straw brought in for 3, also have a 3rd stable which is full of straw so just need to find a new home for that.

On the downside 2 horses is fun, 3 I find a chore especially after a 12 hour shift at work (bearing in mind work is an hours drive away as well). I was thinking of getting a sharer for the new horse. I would do my horseball including some schooling. The sharer could do what they wanted be that just hacking or dressage/jumping etc. I have transport so they could come along to shows with me and my 5 year old (and later the current 2 year old) or if they were just into hacking I don't mind boxing to for example Thetford Forest. I would still do the horses twice a day but any help would be appreciated but means they don't have to be committed to coming to my yard 7 days a week. I've never shared before and have read some horror stories. I don't mind nannying a keen novice as some peoples opions of their fantastic experience isn't always my opion! Also would rather have someone whos really keen to learn and improve than someone who thinks they know it all and just wants to turn up and take him to shows! It would be nice to have some company as only me on the yard with horses.

The other downside is cost. Saved up for years supply of hay, then saved up to get lorry through MOT and now am saving up as the loo, washing machine and shower/bath does not work in my house, (I use the showers at the gym, work and my parents who live a 2 min walk from yard before anyone says yuk :confused:) also need to stock up on heating oil and this money would need to be spent on rugs and a saddle for the new fella instead of the house! Its one thing going outside to the loo in the middle of summer but getting tired of it now the weather not so good :eek:

I keep mulling it over, first thing in the morning and last thing at night when I'm desperate for the loo I think I must be sensible and sort the house out, the rest of the time I think buy the new fella:confused:

Thank you for getting this far, dont know about you but my teas now cold!
 
The only thing I'll say is while this boy sounds fantastic is that it is probably not a good idea if the bills for three are going to put you so close to the edge. All it takes to break you is one big bill for the house, car or vet (fill in any gaps!) and you can't rely on a having a loaner for either help or money especially as you don't have anyone in mind yet!

Sorry.
 
Wow - Like war and peace! only joking!

TBH - I would just get him to fill that 3rd stable up. As for rugs - could you recycle any old ones? keep an eye out for sales, what size is he as i have come across a few decent priced rugs.

You say that you dont mind nannying a novice - but doing 3 will be a chore (is that due to the time?) if its due to the time then you could end up worse off with a sharer, they could take up more of your time.

With sharing - they wont ride exactly the same as you and my main reasons for never sharing my horses is 1) confusing the horse (esp if they are young) 2) they may ride hard and ruin their mouths 3) Im selfish.

xx
 
All I can say is that I never intended to have four horses. :o

I was happy with my three girls, they were settled, I could afford them, it was all lovely-jubly... then I was told about a yearling kept down the road that really needed a new home. I resisted and resisted, but thought about him all the bleeding time. :( Anyway, I gave in last week and he's now here.

PS, my loo has a broken cistern at the moment, so I'm flushing it by pouring a bucket of water down it. :rolleyes: *Must fix it soon*.
 
The only thing I'll say is while this boy sounds fantastic is that it is probably not a good idea if the bills for three are going to put you so close to the edge. All it takes to break you is one big bill for the house, car or vet (fill in any gaps!) and you can't rely on a having a loaner for either help or money especially as you don't have anyone in mind yet!

Sorry.

I agree, sounds like deep down you really cant afford another x
 
Yes definatley as a sharer this sounds like a fab opportunity but sharers should be there for the company etc too not just to pay the bills. How much would you consider charging a sharer?
 
I will warn you now that sharers seem to be like hens teeth at the moment as there are so many horses seeking sharers out there that there seem to be few sharers to choose from!

I think it all boils down to how seriously you want to do horseball. Are you team level? Does team training and competition clash with work or dressage? If so how often (and be honest here) are you going to be able to get new horse out to horseball?

If it's something you really want to do and have time to do then yes go for it. However my ex played at a very high level and when I think about the time and dedication it took I do wonder if you can really fit it in to a 60hr week. Perhaps investigate with your local team if anyone has a spare horse you could ride for horseball only?
 
Thanks everyone. The day to day cost not much of an issue as hay, straw and re-seeded my big field all paid for and wages would cover day to day costs of worming, hard food, shoes, insurance etc. Still got to MOT, tax and insure lorry what ever happens. Yard I'm on costs the same if I have 0 horses or 10! Its just he's a hand smaller than the other 2 so rugs wont fit (well the 2 year olds would when he outgrows them but couldnt rug 2 and leave the 3rd) but more importantly saddle prob wont but as hes for horseball I use a sythentic saddle since my feet end up all over it so hundreds not thousands and my current saddle may fit with different headplate as I've got a Wintec I keep just for horseball! I'm trying to convince myself its ok here!!!!!!! :rolleyes: The more I think about it saddle fitter out to check Wintec and a couple of rugs of ebay, less than 3 figures :cool: Main reason not got house done is you can never tell what the lorry MOT trows up and glad this year I just kept saving as was x3 the cost of last year!

Would prob ask sharer to pay for shoes, own entry fees and half diesel if go out in lorry, does that sound about right? Would be good if a few times I'm on days I could feed, turn out and muck out stables in the morning and sharer could bring them in in daylight since I currently do horses 5am and 8pm when on days - nights easy as can't sleep during days so gives me afternoons with horses. Help like that worth more than a few £! Not sure what is normal for a sharer to contribute! At the moment 3 is ok but thinking in a few years time when the 2 year olds in more regular work.
 
Honestly - no, I wouldnt. The way your post is written makes it seem like you would only cope if you had a sharer. What would you do if the sharer loses interest? It took me 3 months to find a suitable share home.
 
get a camping loo for indoors to get you through the winter and worry about the new loo for next year..

see lol where theres a will theres a way!
 
honestly no I wouldn't, not from what you say.

If you were desperate to to do HB you would sell one of current horses :p as you have not mentioned this I presume you don't want to do it that much
 
Its great getting advice but from reading your comments it sounds as though you have made your decision and worked out how you can get a third and if it means a struggle will that 3rd wee face peeping out the stable not make you forget about all that!? I wish you all the luck but from reading it sounds as though you will regret this decision for a while if you dont do it!
 
The only thing I'll say is while this boy sounds fantastic is that it is probably not a good idea if the bills for three are going to put you so close to the edge. All it takes to break you is one big bill for the house, car or vet (fill in any gaps!) and you can't rely on a having a loaner for either help or money especially as you don't have anyone in mind yet!

Sorry.

Agree with this, sadly. What if a major bill/emergency crops up?

We're in a similar place - doing up a house, skint, and son has grown out of pony, which despite being a superstar, isn't selling in this awful market. We really could do with a bigger equine for him, but heads have to rule heads, and the house needs finishing - and we've got a toilet!! There are some things you can leave for a while, but the loo isn't!

Also another horse does add to the workload quite a lot, and you may not get a sharer at all, let alone a reliable one who helps out...
 
No I don't think you should from what you write, I think a fully functioning indoor loo and bath/shower should take priority.

Why don't you use your 3rd stable full of straw to your advantage and get someone in on a livery to help you out with your horses and have a bit extra left at the end of each month instead?
 
If you can't manage in terms of time and money without a sharer and you are already pared to the bone everywhere then don't risk it,IMHO
 
Could the horse go bare foot then the sharer pays for feed, insurance etc?

It sounds like it could be a challenge for you.

How about selling some stuff you dont use on eBay, set yourself a target say get £300 towards the horse so it so tight for you?

I know it's hard when you want a horse but money's the issue, I've been there, I did bite the bullet and brought crossed all fingers and toes. It did work out for the best but I took on more hours at work.

Good luck with your choice, I know what I'd do.


(wispers.....buy the horse)
 
I think you should go for it!! otherwise you'd always regret it ;)

Seriously though.. think about time.. I struggle with 1 working 40hrs a week.. I don't know how I would cope with 3 working 60 hrs :eek:
 
I think you should stick with the two.
As others have said, you're clearly on a budget, and with the extended winters we seem to be having you may be lining up for quite a fraught time of it.

What would you do if you had a large vet bill, or cost of everything continues to rise etc.

Only you can decide, but it sounds like you have two lovely horses with a maxes out week between them and work etc.

I wish you well in your decision, but if it was me I wouldn't (coming from someone who's forking out permanent meds for a Cushings pony, a dog on sinoquin, and two cats on steroids - ones old and the other has bad allergys in the summer and my overdraft is currently huge following £330 for rear tyre in my car)
 
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