Do potters abattoir sell healthy horses?

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You wouldn't walk up to a vet who is about to PTS a horse by injection and 'rescue' it by preventing the vet from PTS'ing that horse. Sending a horse to slaughter is no different than a vet injecting a horse to PTS. Buying a horse from a slaughterhouse is not rescuing. It is buying, and prolonging a life which more than likely shouldn't be prolonged any further.
 
Would be far more 'noble' to take on a rescue horse, therefore opening a space to another horse, potentially saving a life. Two birds with one stone.
Wanting to rescue horse of unknown origins/health/temperament from the slaughter house (where it's future is already assured) is stupid when there are so many horses in rescue needing a home. They are the ones with the question mark above their future.
 
conniegirl said:
if you are set on rescuing take your chance at beeston or similar auctions by outbidding the meat man, you may end up with a reasonable horse you may end up with a monster like the one we bought
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I was told by a regular that there's nothing wrong with half of the horses in the unwarranted at Beeston, they're there because the owners need a quick sale with no comeback. The question is, of course, is which half..

As OP is currently also posting about being tanked off with by their share pony, maybe they are not best placed to rehab a rescue with ridden issues.

As has been said by many in this thread, and on the similar recent Irish one, the most responsible way to 'rescue' a horse is to take one on from a legitimate rescue organisation.
 
Tiddlypom said:
I was told by a regular that there's nothing wrong with half of the horses in the unwarranted at Beeston, they're there because the owners need a quick sale with no comeback. The question is, of course, is which half..
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I have bought a good number of horses from beeston, several of which have turned out to be amazing ponies, including one who went on to represent his PC area oneday eventing to a significant level (bought for £250 unwarented), anouther for whom I was told to name my price after he won a significant amount in the show ring (bought for £300 unwarented but needed a bit of Rehab) and the ex-race horse I bought who I sold to a friend and she went on to event him. the rest have all gone on to be reasonable members of equine society except for the one I sent for slaughter.

There is nothing wrong with the vast majority of those going through Beeston, but you do have to know what you are doing and be prepared to take the risk and deal with it appropriatly if there is a problem with it.
 
opening poster--i understand that you want to give a poor horse a new chance,and a lovely idea but if you go to a proper rescue,you will have some help and back-up from them and by having their horse means they have a space to save another.

(sorry about the reference about the unicorn x )
 
Thankyou to anyone who has stood up to, or apologised for any of the silly/unnecessary comments. I got the idea from having seen the USA kill pen rescues. I will have a look at rescues for the future
 
I would recommend going to an open afternoon at one of the rescue centres, you would have a chance to see the impressive way they bring on abandoned and neglected horses and ponies and talk to them about options for loaning.

My nearest is Blue Cross at Rolleston, and they have open afternoons every week. Loaning from a recognised rescue charity is very rewarding, and you have their support if you have any problems.
 
In a few years time hopefully there will be less to rescue, the bhs have a gelding campaign on, horse meat has drastically dropped in value so less people are breeding them for meat and as for racehorses, far less are being bred as bloodstock is too cheap at the moment so breeders have cut down a lot.
Tbh you would be far better getting one off a charity... have you not heard of some dealers delibrelty keeping their horses in poor condition so people will feel sorry for them and buy them at an inflated price. Therefore supporting dodgy dealers....

Your heart is in the right place op but you dont want to fund the people you are trying to stop!
If you are a bit young to go out and buy a horse at the moment why dont you see if there any local charties which you could volunteer with at weekends? You could help the horses, learn from where they typically come from and volunteer works looks good on your cv too ☺
 
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TheMule said:
No, they don't.
About half the horses are privately owned and are brought in by their owners for immediate dispatch. I guess you vould try to intercept an already upset owner and offer to buy their horse who they have undoubtedly deliberated long and hard about taking but decided it is time. Personally, I'd have probably punched you (and I'm not a violent person!)
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someone I knew was sending their 5yo arab to Potters. I asked to take him (they needed a lot of persuading) as I could not bear to see a healthy 5yo PTS and I could see how unhappy he was. I rang Potters and asked what was the maximum they would pay for that sort of animal, it was £300. I gave that amount to the owner.

Fifteen years on and he is still with me. He has had a wonderful life and I have never regretted it.

I don't understand owners sending their horses to Potters. If you want your horse to be PTS then do it at home, don't transport it halfway around the country. In my case I was incensed not that the owner wanted the horse PTS but that they wouldn't have the decency to do it at home rather then send it to it's end in a strange lorry.
 
paddy555 said:
someone I knew was sending their 5yo arab to Potters. I asked to take him (they needed a lot of persuading) as I could not bear to see a healthy 5yo PTS and I could see how unhappy he was. I rang Potters and asked what was the maximum they would pay for that sort of animal, it was £300. I gave that amount to the owner.

Fifteen years on and he is still with me. He has had a wonderful life and I have never regretted it.

I don't understand owners sending their horses to Potters. If you want your horse to be PTS then do it at home, don't transport it halfway around the country. In my case I was incensed not that the owner wanted the horse PTS but that they wouldn't have the decency to do it at home rather then send it to it's end in a strange lorry.
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YOu say you dont understand it and yet you have hit the nail on the head.
We sent the horse to the abattoir as it was frankly going to kill someone if not PTS, we had no emotional attachment to it and my morals would not let me sell it on when it would kill someone. It costs in excess of £500 to have a horse PTS at home and then removed, we had already spent a considerable amount of money on this horse, did not want to spend any more and wanted a fraction of it back so we could spend the money on anouther poor pony whop without us faced an uncertain future but with us would have had a chance to get back on thier feet and have a "job" and a chance at a good quality life.
 
Rolocookiepepsi said:
Thankyou to anyone who has stood up to, or apologised for any of the silly/unnecessary comments. I got the idea from having seen the USA kill pen rescues. I will have a look at rescues for the future
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If you don't want silly and unnecessary comments as a brand new poster on the forum, then my advice would be not to make the first three threads you start on your first day all ones which are likely to cause an argument :) (the other two being a hunting thread and a bolting pony thread) I'm sorry if my own comment offended you, but in school holidays we are very used to people posting threads just to cause a ruckus, and you've chosen three of them all at once. It's impossible for us to tell, with no history of how you post, whether you are genuine, or trying to get everyone going, sorry.
 
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It's unlikely you'll be able to acquire a horse from a charity, OP, as you have to provide two references. That's not a problem for those who have horses already, but for those who haven't you'll have a hard time finding anyone horsey who'll be willing to give you a reference; unless you've worked at livery yards/sanctuaries etc., where you could ask former employers to supply you a reference? You don't mention in your post what experience you have with horses.

While I don't agree with the consensus on here that selling horses/ponies to the "meat man" is a humane method to PTS, I do agree that the majority of these horses are unsuitable to rescue and you would be better off rehoming a horse.

You strike me as someone who cares about the plight of horses and wants to help, so may I suggest you contact your local equine sanctuary and volunteer to help with the daily care of their horses? I'm sure you'll find it rewarding and you will gain experience.
 
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ycbm said:
If you don't want silly and unnecessary comments as a brand new poster on the forum, then my advice would be not to make the first three threads you start on your first day all ones which are likely to cause an argument :) (the other two being a hunting thread and a bolting pony thread) I'm sorry if my own comment offended you, but in school holidays we are very used to people posting threads just to cause a ruckus, and you've chosen three of them all at once. It's impossible for us to tell, with no history of how you post, whether you are genuine, or trying to get everyone going, sorry.
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These are just questions I've been wanting an answer to for a while, which is why I joined? And why are you.. tracking all my posts?
 
ycbm said:
If you don't want silly and unnecessary comments as a brand new poster on the forum, then my advice would be not to make the first three threads you start on your first day all ones which are likely to cause an argument :) (the other two being a hunting thread and a bolting pony thread) I'm sorry if my own comment offended you, but in school holidays we are very used to people posting threads just to cause a ruckus, and you've chosen three of them all at once. It's impossible for us to tell, with no history of how you post, whether you are genuine, or trying to get everyone going, sorry.
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Rolocookiepepsi said:
These are just questions I've been wanting an answer to for a while, which is why I joined? And why are you.. tracking all my posts?
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And these are just genuine questions, I'm not trying to start anything, as I said, if been wondering for a while so that's why I joined
 
You don't have anyone hating you, you just have people who don't know you yet and you don't know them. Just give it time. You can't delete threads that are within the rules. It would be a good start if you went back onto your 'hi' thread and said a bit more about yourself, especially if you are young.
 
I do have quite a few people insulting me on various threads for this post. I have updated my description but I'm not happy about people assuming I'm 10 or something?
 
Rolocookiepepsi said:
Leave it out cahill.
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i was just making a point,like what most people have said,sent to potters for a reason.
there are far worse thing than PTS.
imagine-horse in pain=gets labelled bad=gets passed around from pillar to post=umpteen different riders(some cowboys)=umpteen homes= trying to sort it out=harsher tack applied=passed around again.
some times years knocked off age and allsorts :(

i would not like this to happen to one of mine
i pray i would never have to do this,but if i did decide to have one pts,the decision would not be taken lightly but pts it would be.
 
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Rolocookiepepsi said:
Is there a way to delete this? I have quite a few people 'hating' on me just because I asked a question..
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How I loathe that phrase. It says an awful lot about your age.

I always wonder why people join to ask such inflammatory questions. Surely you have looked at the forum and realised that it's HHO, not Chitchat and Tack or whatever that ruddy awful group is?
 
You come across as being quite young and idealistic, that's all. So I would maybe put you to be in your teens. I'd be surprised if you were in your 20's. I'm sure I felt the same way at that age. I kinda miss feeling that way TBH.

For context sakes, I'm *cough* somewhere in my 30's *cough*
 
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