Do we need another dog?

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Probably going to get shot down for this...but here goes...

We've had our girl for about 8 months. She's an absolute sweetheart, walks beautifully, great with kids, other dogs and the cat but we are having a serious problem.

She is tiny (about the size of a Yorkie, weighs less than 5kg) and the most hyperactive energetic dog I've ever met - I've got friends with boxers, springers and the like and my mum has terriers, they've never seen anything like her.

Outside she's lovely. She gets at least 2 walks a day, lots of garden ball-throwing, is rarely left and generally busy doing something with us. But no matter how much she's done during the day, she's still buzzing in the evening and anytime during the day when you might want to sit down with a cuppa.

This generally manifests itself by her annoying the cat. Generally she and the cat get on very well, the cat enjoys playing with her up to a point but he's got a medical condition that means he can't jump up out of her way, and he also likes to be around us so doesn't just take himself upstairs to our room where the dog's not allowed.

We can call her away from the cat, she comes straight away when she's called, but the second we turn back to what we were doing she's back trying to wrestle him again. We've tried giving her bones and chews (that she doesn't normally get) at the worst time, but she'll chew it for a bit and then start pestering him again.

He's getting very stressed, and we're not sure what to do. Her basic obedience is good, no issues with recall or basic commands but I am trying to find a club to go to for agility, flyball, obedience or anything really that will help tire her out. My OH runs with her a few times a week, but as she's so tiny it doesn't seem right to take her further than 3/4 miles at a good pace.

So we're trying to think of other options, and one of the things we've thought of is getting another juvenile dog that she could play with during the day, hopefully wear herself out even more and bother him in the evenings rather than the cat. Is this ludicrous or might it actually work?

I'm expecting people to say that we should just train our current dog better and I do agree , so any further ideas of things we could do are also welcome.

Thank you all

ETA - should probably mention that we've just moved house which has triggered a definite worsening in the behaviour. In our old house the cat was there first, then we introduced the dog and she hardly bothered him at all. Since they both moved here together, the cat has generally been a lot more wary, and the dog more inclined to mess with him.
 
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What do you feed her?

No i don't think you should get another dog to tire this one out. You could just end up with two dogs going at the cat.
 
Actually writing that out was a really useful exercise - we do want another dog eventually, but not until this one's a model citizen!

We do some training most days, but it has to be in very small bursts or she gets hopelessly overexcited and her brain disconnects!

She eats Arden grange dry food with a spoonful of one of the natures diet trays twice a day. We tried her on raw but everything but pure chicken breast gave her diarrhoea, which was not ideal!

Thank you both :)
 
It sounds as if the cat is more of a problem in a way, he is not yet relaxed in the new home, has become more cautious and taken to following you which makes him a target for the dog, I would look at finding somewhere the cat can go to be safe and have some peace and quiet when he wants that the dog cannot get to, somewhere high up, a window ledge or something where he can hide away, once he is more settled the dog probably will leave him alone. I would worry that two dogs could actually corner him and really give him a fright.
 
I don't think another dog is the answer. Training and wearing her out may be the clue. Can she go with you in the car, trips to shops etc used to wear my puppies out, they came to the yard, Pets at Home, anywhere they were allowed. Making them think tires them as much as physical exercise. How old is she? She shouldn't be running much at all on lead if she's still a puppy.
 
Thanks for the replies :)

be positive - yes that is a good idea, we are trying to find a 'cat tree' that he will be able to climb/pull himself up onto to get a bit of height and peace and quiet.

CT - yes, she comes almost everywhere with us, she loves car journeys, we only leave her behind when its too hot and we can't guarantee that we'll find shade to park in. We don't really know how old she is, we found her in Feb 2014, at which point the vet said she was definitely older than 4 months because she had all her adult teeth but probably not much older, so we guesstimated 6 months, making her about 14 months now, and she's only started doing a little bit of running recently.
 
Mine's bonkers, I posted about him here a couple of months ago. Same sort of thing except he's nearly 3 and should know better/have grown out of it, but he's a working line GSD and I think it's just how he is... I was not prepared! I cannot tire him physically, as I would be asleep before he even slowed down.

Here are three things that have helped us.

1: Obedience throughout the day. I make my lad sit, lie down, wait, heel etc throughout our walks (intermittently). He also does this at home, so he sits in the kitchen til he's called through, lies down before I let him have a toy etc, I roll a ball to him and he has to wait before he can get it... It's become second nature now but he loves the challenge.
2: a stuffed Kong, frozen. if you need half an hour downtime this is fab, you could put some of her tea in there and let her puzzle it out.
3: I got a Nina ottosson dog toy, I got dog casino. You have to supervise them so as with #1 you don't get to sit quietly while the dog plays, but by playing with this for 15 minutes, I get a bit of a break for a while afterwards! Worth the investment for us, both in cost and time.

Good luck! As yours is a puppy I daresay she'll grow out of this soon!
 
Just a quick update - thank you all so much for the suggestions. We found a 'cat tree' that our little man can climb up onto so he's got somewhere to go when he's being harassed. Dog is also getting better at the idea that if I call her away from the cat I mean for longer than 2 seconds.

I do think that it would be good to get her a friend at some point - based mostly on the 'multiple dog families' thread that made me terribly jealous - but not until I've reliably stopped the bouncing and OTT playing with the cat (and my mum's dogs come to think of it, she's 'normal' out on walks but pesters my mum's bichon tremendously. More of the same thing I think). Thanks again.
 
I'm glad your cat tree works. As you can see ours didn't:

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We then replaced it and this happened:
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Excuse the cat's devil eys!
 
EM - love it, what brilliant pictures! Dog tried to climb it once, got a b********g from both me and the cat and hasn't tried since!
 
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