Do you keep your horse's passport at home or at the yard?

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It is a policy at my yard that liveries' passports are kept there. I am wondering if this is common or if most of you keep your passports at home? For those of you who do keep your passports at the yard, on what type of livery are you? Thanks for reading.
 
Home. Though our "yard" (field / tack room) isn't secure. I would't want someone breaking in, finding passports, then taking them and the ponies.

Though it's currently with the BEF, so neither!
 
At the yard, but we don't do DIY and often during the week owners don't get to the yard at all or more than once. Im about the only livery who rides every day.....but I am x staff.
If you are uncomfortable with the yard having your horses passport give them a photocopy of it.
It doesn't bother me them having it as I know them all so well and they are friends who I trust 100% to make any decisions regarding my horse if I am not about, and I am pretty sure they wont run off with or sell my horse.
 
Hello.
l keep my horse,s passport at home with me. Like l do with most of my horse paper work plus horse book then they are all together,

From Purple lady,
Take care all
 
marydoll said:
My horses passport stays with me at home, theres no way id have it at a yard if they wanted id give them a photocopy of it to check flu n tet etc.
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Same here. Our yard's hap-hazard (they dont even have a contract or anything) and there's no way I trust my passports out of my keeping. Guess it might be different if I were at a top livery yard, paying for full livery and schooling, etc. But where I am, low budget DIY - nope.
 
The passports are kept in a house where two of the grooms live. The majority of horses are on full livery. I guess it makes sense to have the passports handy if the owner cannot attend a vet visit etc. I do trust the YO, and do not think that my horse would be sold or anything like that. I just wondered if it was a common policy to keep the passport at the yard.
 
Anglebracket said:
The passports are kept in a house where two of the grooms live. The majority of horses are on full livery. I guess it makes sense to have the passports handy if the owner cannot attend a vet visit etc. I do trust the YO, and do not think that my horse would be sold or anything like that. I just wondered if it was a common policy to keep the passport at the yard.
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I thought it was the law that the passports are kept with the keeper of the horse or with the horse? I ask liveries to let me have their passports, but do not insist if they are uncomfortable about it (no one seems bothered though). All horses are on full livery and I arrange vets/vaccinations etc so it makes sense to have the passports too.
 
By law the passport must be with the keeper of the horse, not necess the owner. And if you cant guarantee to be able to produce it within 4 hours at any time, then it must be held by the person who can (usually the YO). Photocopies may placate the authorities but the requirement is for the original passport. Also it must accompany the animal when travelling, so if horse has an accident and has to be trailered off to vet hospital before you get there, again the passport needs to be accessible.

My horses are now at home but when at old yard the passports were all held by YO. Whom I trusted. To be honest if I didnt trust a YO to hold a passport (which is not proof of ownership anyway), why on earth would I want them looking after my horse?
 
I thought it might be a legal requirement but was not 100% sure. Also, would be interesting to know the situation for DIY yards where the yard owners are often uninvolved with the day-to-day running of the yard and horse care. I agree with 'lachlanandmarkus' that I would not want to keep my horse in the care of a person I did not trust with his passport.
 
lachlanandmarcus said:
By law the passport must be with the keeper of the horse, not necess the owner. And if you cant guarantee to be able to produce it within 4 hours at any time, then it must be held by the person who can (usually the YO). Photocopies may placate the authorities but the requirement is for the original passport. Also it must accompany the animal when travelling, so if horse has an accident and has to be trailered off to vet hospital before you get there, again the passport needs to be accessible.
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Exactly why all horses boarded with me have their passports here. They're all locked away in the house, in their own box, so are perfectly safe.
 
Mine are kept at home and at a previous yard they had photocopies of them. I have also shown passports when necessary and always had them with me when they have travelled.
As for the legalities of a passport needing to be kept with the horse or its keeper.
It is not worth the paper it is written on.
Passports are a joke anyway.
So where are the all the passports of the horses and ponies that are kept by travellers? Do they always carry them with them when the horses get moved from field to field? Do they ever get inspected?
When was the last time you saw a yard inspected for passports? I never have in 5 years of having horses.
Also with this malarky of passports needing to be with the horse when travelled then what happens in rescue cases or when equines are rescued from fields and have to be whisked away for veterinary treatment, to foal, to be pts, or simply to be re-homed due to their health/living conditions. I don't see any mention of passports needed then.
 
Erm, actually my car .. due to never trusting myself not to be able to find it when it matters and as my car is also my towing vehicle so cannot really go wrong.
 
At the yard. Yard operates as a RS - Kal is on full livery - so not used in the school/ridden by anyone but my trainer and me - but they sort vet visits, vaccinations, etc., so need his passport.

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Cazee34 said:
Mine are kept at home and at a previous yard they had photocopies of them. I have also shown passports when necessary and always had them with me when they have travelled.
As for the legalities of a passport needing to be kept with the horse or its keeper.
It is not worth the paper it is written on.
Passports are a joke anyway.
So where are the all the passports of the horses and ponies that are kept by travellers? Do they always carry them with them when the horses get moved from field to field? Do they ever get inspected?
When was the last time you saw a yard inspected for passports? I never have in 5 years of having horses.
Also with this malarky of passports needing to be with the horse when travelled then what happens in rescue cases or when equines are rescued from fields and have to be whisked away for veterinary treatment, to foal, to be pts, or simply to be re-homed due to their health/living conditions. I don't see any mention of passports needed then.
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Passports are a joke . . . Kal's (Polish) passport doesn't list a d.o.b., the silhouette isn't him, and it hasn't been updated by any owner since it was issued to his breeder when he exported Kal to the UK. If we were stopped, we'd be hard-pushed to prove his passport was him (b/c it isn't) . . . which is why we are having to have a new one issued.

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I keep mine at home, I am on DIY and would never hand anyone my passport as I have known of problems at previous livery yards I have been at!

As always, everyone has different opinions on this and it depends if you trust that person not to sell your horse or take it to competitions without your permission :rolleyes:
 
In my car. I'm my horse's keeper even though she is not kept at home - I feed her, I water her, I muck her out, book her vet visits and vaccinations. YO just provides the facilities. Therefore I keep her passport :)
 
My guys are DIY livery and im 10 mins away from the yard, if my horse needed the vet id be there before him, as for farrier and vet routine visits i arrange them and am present when they attend.
The only people needing my horses passports are myself and the vet, anyone else who requires access to them will get them from me.
 
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