Do you think a pure Irish Draught could do BE90 and BE100

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I just wondered if anyone events a pure Irish Draught. I have seen some that are lighter weight than you would imagine an ID to be and just wondered if they would cope with eventing at lower levels, or do you think they would struggle with the XC time?
Does anyone on here own one and what do you do with them?
Proper ID x TB are quite hard to come by these days, they always seem to be ISH which tend to have warmblood in them
Any thoughts?
 
i don't see why not ,all the pure ID iv'e seen about are lighter and have better paces and jump than my boy
i think mine is IDx poss cob ,my vet seems to think he might have some WB somewhere but if he has it only shows in his special mind sometimes as he hasn't get any natural paces or speed

if mine can go and do fairly well at 90 with pot to do 100 (until tendon injury) i don't see why a pure ID couldn't ,good luck if you do decide to have a go :)

oh and mine did struggle with time at his first few events but he does spook and back himself of the fences ,then go higher than he needed hence wasting a lot of time in the air but once he got more experience he could get inside the time fairly easily :)
 
Easily at 90 and 100. My grey that I sold really shifts xc and it's more about keeping them streamline enough and fit enough. My mums little Conne X went novice, he looks like a chunky monkey, is 15.2hh and made the time easily.

Ref the ISH I always choose nice old fashion Irish mare with good jumping bloodlines and a nice tb stallion - love them bred this way :)
 
yes of course you see all sorts out doing 90 and 100. Although autumn is technically ISH she does have a fair amount of ID in her and although shes not the quickest (although as she gets more experienced she is getting quicker) you can find places on courses to save time/shorter lines etc she really has taught me the importance of kicking on after a fence too. Dont see why a full ID couldnt do it!

good luck!
 
Yes, absolutely. We have three proper TB x ID Irish horses to produce at the moment and all are very athletic. ID's, like all breeds, come in different shapes and degrees of athleticism and many will be well within their comfort zone at BE90 and BE100.
 
Thanks for the replys. I wish i lived nearer to you Measles!! From what i have heard you would probably be able to find me the horse i am looking for!
 
I have a few IDs and although Im not into Eventing, I dont see why the couldnt do it, and do it well. Some of the lines have quite a bit of TB in their back breeding anyhow :)
 
My OH's hunter is a pure ID he would easily do BE 90/100 he's not as heavy as I thought a pure ID would be and would be fast enough for 100 he jumps well and moves nicely the problem might be he would think it was a great fuss over nothing he really only likes hunting!
 
Yes - definately. I have a pure ID that I hope will event next year. He has a hell of a pop on him and a nice big canter so I don't see why not! As someone mentioned above, even pure breds have TB in them a couple of generations back.

After all, IDs are hunting machines - no reason why the can't be xc machines too!
 
There tend to be two types of ID. The more traditional type is smaller and heavier, though would still be expected to do a day's hunting etc. With the right training would probs manage a novice.
The modern ID (tend to be from Ireland) are a lot taller and lighter. These often Grade A show jump and I *think* there may even have been a pure ID stallion that event upto Int/Adv.
They tend to be honest and bold, though do have a stubburn streak!
I used to work for someone who bred ID's, and her mare (around 17.3hh and huge in everyway) Would easily pop 1.20m despite having done very little. It also could gallop, and was no slouch in any means!
 
No reason why not - particularly the modern stamp of RIDs are quite sporty.

We've got two IDxTBs and 2 pure breds - they could all event to a certain level, although the RIDs would probably find the dressage arena a tad small....

the older half bred evented before we got him and the younger would easily - I may find myself doing some trotting about in circles after the end of the hunting season (my OH is threatening to sell him ..... :( :( )

Here he is - he trots like a WB but is genuinely half draught, half TB
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and this is the older of the RID boys.....
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as dominobrown says, there tend to be two types of "pure" ID.
the old-fashioned ones had quite a bit of bone and 'a backside like a cook' iirc was the desired conformation! tbh i think a good one would probably go Advanced, although it'd struggle with the time xc. as for the lower levels, yes, very easily.
the more modern sporty type, even more easily.
 
Of course, though some (Bob the nota cob please take note) are absolute pants at dressage. .......Editors note from Bob the nota cob, dressage is for wimps and no self respecting ID can take it seriously!
 
My ISH when u look at his breeding is almost pure ID. He would manage upto be100 without problem but I wouldn't want to take him novice with some of the bigger spreads and finds it difficult to make time xc. However mine does a very good dressage which can help offset the time penalties. He is 17.1 and got a lot of bone. He has been schooled over some novice fences but he is not a natural xc as doesn't take on his xc fences like he does out hunting!
 
My RID stallion's sire, Touch of the Blues, evented to Intermediate alongside a very busy stud career. The more 'sporty' type of RID could certainly do BE100 - or go quite a bit further - although they would have to be very fit! But for serious eventing, a dash of TB always helps!
 
Thanks everyone. All your photos are lovely and have definitely made me think thats the direction i may go in. Now to finding one :p:D:p
 
Going against the grain, I would want more TB if I wanted to event.
My mare is straight IDxTB. We only ever evented for fun and generally had few time faults, but I lived in envy of friends who were able to go XC at a sensible hand gallop. I used to have to go like the clappers, absolutely pedal to the metal to get the time. It spoilt it for me and I felt I was always pushing her 10% faster than she was comfortable with. It was a constant struggle to get the weight off her and keep her fit enough. She has enormous stamina, and a great gallop but not comparable to breedier horses.

She is a complete saint and irreplaceable, but for eventing I would want to make my life a little easier if I were doing it all again.
 
Check out the performance record of the RID stallion Grange Bouncer, he evented to almost top level, showjumped to grade A and did dressage and was a top hunter with even beginners on him (could still be given the longevity of the ID) and is siring sound, sane gifted all round performers like himself. (No I dont own him or have anything to do with him, wouldn't mind having him though!:D). If you are talking straight ID/Tb think Lenamore by RID Sea Crest out of TB mare. For more info on full Irish Draughts try contacting Janet on here she breeds them.
 
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One of my pupils evenst a pure ID and I'm currently schooling another pure ID with the goal of starting eventing later this season. No reason at all why the should struggle to make the XC time at anything up to novice.
loads of time can be saved on an XC course by doing simple things like getting out of the start box quickly, getting away from each fence positively, not wasting time setting up 20 strides from a fence etc. You dont need to charge around to make the time, just ride with your brain.
 
This is my boy, full ID. As long as i get his fitness right he has done fine over the last 2 years at BE100 (unaffiliated due to funds) but he has always been close to the time

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Sorry about the massive pics!!!
 
PaddyMonty said:
One of my pupils evenst a pure ID and I'm currently schooling another pure ID with the goal of starting eventing later this season. No reason at all why the should struggle to make the XC time at anything up to novice.
loads of time can be saved on an XC course by doing simple things like getting out of the start box quickly, getting away from each fence positively, not wasting time setting up 20 strides from a fence etc. You dont need to charge around to make the time, just ride with your brain.
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If you are on a small, slow horse you can ride with your brain all you like, and I'm offended at the thought you may be referring to me here. You can go out of the start box like you mean business, you can cut all the corners you want, you can ride the tightest lines, not take a check and hit the ground running after every fence. You will still have to go proportionally faster than someone on a speedy big TB. I think it's called horses for courses.
 
I also have found it hard to find true IDxTB, so I have set about breeding my own! Would love to think that last years filly might end up like Mally! She is out of a TB mare that was winning at intermediate by an ID stallion.
I have also got a TB mare in foal to an ID stallion for this year. I love them! They make the best hunters!
I have another big horse who is mostly ID and don't think he'd struggle with the time certainly up to BE100 - he has a huge stride and is very light across the ground. Our only problem is a 20 x 40 dressage arena - it feels tiny!
 
Moo Wills – your ID looks very much like mine, how is he bred ?

Mine can jump really nicely and his ‘stressage’ isn’t bad either. He’s not very fast, but he’s got a huge canter stride - its very steady and ground covering. The thing about an ID is that they can turn their hoof to anything and with the correct training, will usually be pretty good at most things. Fitness is key, they aren’t the most athletic types and generally pretty placid, so getting them fit enough for the task in hand is very important, they don’t tend to run off adrenalin, LOL !!
 
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If you are on a small, slow horse you can ride with your brain all you like, and I'm offended at the thought you may be referring to me here.
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Get over yourself. :p I have no idea who you are let alone what type of horse you ride. I was referring simply to my own experience of shaving time off XC course without having to go faster. I've also spent many hours in XC control and I can assure you a lot of time is wasted getting started, even more by ambling away from each fence etc.
 
MooWills- I lurve your horse, what a looker!

I would say an ID could do the low levels easy enough.... If my chunky monkey is considered elligable for a 90 then for sure (he is a CD x TB) !
 
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