Do you think She is lame??

I know you said not to comment on the video but it makes your horse look choppy so it is hard to say if she is lame or not. She does not look 100% but it could be the video and not the horse.
 
IMO she looks fine but I am not qualified. Nothing stuck out to me. The first trot you did she was head nodding slightly but she was also behind the vertical, where as the second trot you did she had her head in a spot on position and she never head nodded. Do you get what I mean? Please correct me if I am wrong, just my opinion x
 
Yes i want comments on here not on the you tube link ...

She has been off for ten weeks went to mark windsor on fri he said she presented sound ... Although my vet wants to medicate her off side stifle so just after some opinions really off you guys as its a little confusing.
She is only young and un fit to maybe thats not helping ??
 
I think Taluna means not to post comments about the video on YouTube. Can't tell from the video, it would be much easier to see if she was being trotted up in hand on a hard surface and a loose rein
 
Yes, I wold say she is lame. Off hind stifle. Has the joint been Xrayed? This would be my first port of call before medicating as there could be a lesion or two in there that might need removing... NB. mobile xrays don't tend to be much good for the stifle as it is a tricky joint to get to so you're best to get her to a veterinary hospital...
 
Lame. Left hind. About 4/10 I'd say.

It is also making her look a little unbalanced in front (on the diagonal opposite leg)

I would get a lameness work up done on her.
 
she has had a full lameness work up, x rays, scan of the stifle nerve blocks and lastly a session with mark windsor (Chiro)
Everything fine in all respects. X rays fine no ocd or damage etc. Scan inconclusive no visible diff from either stifle and mark windsor said she presented sound on fri. So if she is so lame why !?
My vet says she is only 1/10 ths lame and this isnt consisitent lameness.
She has been resting for weeks now and is very un fit she has only ever cantered a few times while been ridden in the school as she i very un balanced she is very imature mentally and physically really.
Could it be possible she is just weaker on the one side now which is causing her to look "Stiff" maybe it was soft tissue damage?
Everyone that has seen her in person as it were has said she looks fine!! My vet even said that he could give her to over 50% of his clients and they would never know !!! LOL
But he feels medicating the joint is the next step...just wondering if its worth it with her being so young?
 
Ah - ok. Didn't realise it has already been investigated.
I think she looks much more than 1/10 lame, but I am a bit sensitive to it having had 2 horses with hock problems!

I can see why they are suggesting medication of the joint but I would be very wary of this as it can be expensive & if nothing has showed up how on earth do you know it is the correct joint to medicate?

Might be a bit controversial but how about working her through it & doing more canter & fast work - see what happens? It will go one of two ways.....
 
Ok,... this might be long and it is just my opinion but.....
I think the rider is yanking on the bit intermittently to keep the head carriage.
I think the horse is sound in front
I think the horse has slightly different hock actions, but isn't unsound. Most likely a balance issue, or maybe shoeing. Could potentially be the start of spavins. Worth checking out.
I think the balance is a bit off on ocassion, but give I don't know how old the horse is or what the background is it may just be a schooling issue.
I can't make a comment on whether the horse is using her back as the head is so forced in!

Just my opinion though.

ETA... sorry, just re-read OP.... young and unfit explains a lot... would still get spavins checked tho.... Don't mean to criticise your riding or say I know better, just making observations based on my experience.
 
is she the same loose or on the lunge? That way is better to tell as she is young and then doesnt have to worry about the riders weight.
Would say she looks very very very tight behind the saddle.
Personally i would do a lot of work to loosen the muscles and re-assess then.
 
No thats fine thats what i want peoples opinions !!
I agree with your comments Mayflower ! how do we justify medicating the stifle !

I know its difficult to tell from a video but she has a very round head carriage i have lessons ( when i ride her ) with an advance dressage rider who says i have to try and convince her to poke her nose as she does hold herself like that naturally. ( its not me on her its my friend who rides novice level she has ony ridden her fr the first time today )

She has only been in work from august to november this yr as she was maturing over last summer she was gangly and very clumsy. She went lame in Nov been off untill today when i decided to give her a go.

Im thinking that im going to work her now for the next month and see what happens before i do anything else
May have a read up on spavins...think my vet has looked at this though as we x rayed her hocks ( im guessing thats were they are ??)
 
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maybe some work on a pessoa would help her?
 
From what I can see on the video she does not appear lame.
She does seem 'tight' behind.
It is diificult to judge when she is being ridden in this way. It would be far better to see her without a rider on board. This would then leave freedom of movement in the head and neck.
She is a young horse and needs time to develope. She does appear some what unbalanced but this is to be expected.
If I were you I would do another video of her being run up in hand in both directions several times, veiwing from the side, going away from you and towards you. This should also be done on a hard flat surface. That way we can see properly.
 
We do have a mare who has been very tight muscularly of late, was noticeably lame in walk, fine in trot but unwilling to go forwards, decided to see how she went with poss having full work up but she has an old problem with one leg after an accident so I wasnt sure that we wouldnt just find that had gotten worse with age.

not sure what caused it had a couple of chiro visits and we have been massaging her every night with a massage ball and working her slowly, lots of hacking and gentle schooling, knowing the schoolng would be bad for a while as she is a sensitive mare, a couple of months down the line she is a different horse, straight, moving well, and jumping fab. Not sure if it would make a difference to yours but just thought I would mention.
 
is she 4 this time or 5 this time? whatever the age this time she is very round to point of dropping behind contact! not tracking up fully but as she is over flexing she is loosing the hind quarters? you are also riding on a fair to good contact and sitting deep neither encourage a youngster to self carry and propell forward. are you claiming for this on your insurance? if so you will have 12 months to sort it before exclusions. if not i would give her time to mature, before considering medication. lots of hacking long and low, lunge long and low to encourage hindquarters and back to work through. lots of turnout and feed off the floor.
 
She is definitely not right behind especially on the off hind leg and very noticeably so at times. Give the investigation you have already had I would potentially be inclined to work her gently to see if it it improves with work and therefore additional muscle strength.
 
not coming through on the right hind. this could just be ridden is this the same with different riders? i this the same on lunge? has the vet seen the horse ridden? not an easy one but no this horse is not right and at her age slightly worring. Is the vetan equine ortho specialist? if not then finding one might be a good idea. as other have said what was the justification for medicating? did she ahve ultasound scan orbone scan? good luck
 
Absolutely lovely girl and beautifully balanced for a 4yr old but, definiltely short one the near hind. The snatching action which you can see in the trot, and the reluctance to follow thorugh scream stiffle issues to me. I would be reluctant to carry on with canter/circle work as there's defineltly something which needs more investigation.
 
Was that the first time she was ridden after a lay off since November ? I could be wrong but thats how I read it. Shouldn't she have started off just walking if she hasn't been ridden for so long.
 
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