Do you think this is justice

I'm going to be quite controversial here and say he shouldn't of. Everyone who drives will know that the sun can seriously blind you in a second. By the sounds of it, it was a tragic accident
 
Mr Boyle did not adjust his driving sufficiently to compensate for the bright sunlight at the time, resulting in him not seeing the horses in the road.


But that reads to me that he had chance to adjust his driving, but didnt. So he had chance to do something, and choose not to. But maybe I am the wrong person to comment!
 
hmm strikes me that if animals are involved sentencing is always lesser.
Ie horse riding is a potentially dangerus activity so it was just one of those things. There there pat on the head. I bet sentence would have been different if the victim had been walking at side of road. its played down because of a horse being involved.
Not on.
Life perhaps a tad strong but to be honest horse or not any death as result of being hit by car carrys a poor sentance end of.
 
Maybe a demand for a life sentance is a bit heavy handed... but certainly a custodial sentance (albeit suspended) and then a long driving ban seems sufficient.

Hopefully this incident has taught other people they have to be careful when being on the roads, and more people can learn from it. Even if 20 of his closest friends and family learn something from his actions then I would see that as a positive outcome from a tragic event.
 
No I don't think it's justice, but then we all know that the law is totally ineffectual on many counts.

It's an interesting (but not unsurprising) statistic that the highest number of deaths on the road are recorded as being in rural areas.
 
To me it shows he is not a proficient enough of a driver and therefore not only do I think he should have received a tougher sentence for manslaughter, have a driving ban etc. He should have also had his licence revoked and should have to retake the driving test as it is today. I mean, come on, it's not rocket science - I assume he had been driving for a number of years through ALL the seasons? Any idiot knows that at certain times of day the sun dips low and can cause moments of blindness when you are driving. You can SEE where the sun is when you're driving so IF you are about to drive round a bend that you can see damn well is going then mean you are driving into the sun you adjust your driving (ie slow down and take caution).

I am interested to know what would have happened had there been a hedge cutter/broken down larger vehicle in place of that horse, this man would have hit that, could have been seriously injured himself (people should always consider what may be ahead in the road). I wonder who would have been deemed at fault then?

Makes me angry that this accident doesn't appear to have been taken as seriously as it should have been.
 
benson21 said:
Mr Boyle did not adjust his driving sufficiently to compensate for the bright sunlight at the time, resulting in him not seeing the horses in the road.


But that reads to me that he had chance to adjust his driving, but didnt. So he had chance to do something, and choose not to. But maybe I am the wrong person to comment!
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Am I really that unusual in carrying a pair of sunglasses in the car with me for such conditions? Or thinking it not outwith the realms of human possibility to drive slowly and carefully when not able to see where I'm going due to bright sunlight? Its not compulsary to keep going or anything!
 
Thing is I personally find it a bit pointless jailing people who have clearly accidentally killed someone. I thought the whole point of jail originally was to punish someone so they learn not to do it again, I'm pretty certain that killing a horse and rider will be enough to ensure that. Its the same as anyone who causes a car crash and kills someone. Whilst I can see they need to be punished if they've been really stupid (like speeding / drink driving etc.), if its a genuine accident I think it gets onto dodgy ground. Very sad that this happened all the same.
 
My sympathies are to the members of the family concerned.

Unfortunately sentences of this nature are not uncommon when riders/horses are killed by motorised vehicles and the driver blames low bright sunshine as being the cause.

Motorised vehicles are killing machines - End Of. Drivers/Operators of them should drive in such a way as to ensure that they do not have accidents of this sort. If you are blinded then you should simply stop until conditions improve.

I have been riding for about 55 years now and I never ride out on a road when the sun is bright and low as three of my riding friends have had their horses killed and so sadly was one of my friends killed.

The reason there are not harsher penal penalties is because the prisons are full. The priority should be to build 100 brand new prisons so that judges can make appropriate penal sentences and those sentenced are then permanently locked up and theerfore prevented from causing further harm to innocent parties.
 
I am about to read the article but from comments here I think there was a serious accident dye to low sun?

I completely understand how much of a hazzard this is. I had a heart in mouth moment yesterday. I was driving down the lanes, on a long straight. The sun was very low, giving very poor visibility and blind spots. The speed limit us 60mph but I was doing about 20-25. The right side of the road was completely blind due to the low sun thru the trees.

I did not see the dark bay oncoming horse until I was almost level. It spooked, not badly thankfully. Just leaped sideways. It happened so quickly that I only really understood once I'd actually gone past them. Rider kept her seat and hurled abuse at me.

Obviously I always slow down, and I am always on the look out for riders in the lanes. However due to the conditions I genuinely did not see them. It was lucky that I was going at a sensible speed for the conditions.

But I really felt bad afterwards.
 
No I don't think justice has been done (if that's possible when somene has been killed) but nor do I personally think that this person should get life though either, yes it was a terrible accident and yes he was driving like complete moron without due care and yes I think he got off very lightly considering but how can you give somone like him the same sentance as someone who has commited a cold hearted murder or a rapist etc, very sad indeed, i agree with MagicMellon, how can you give two differnt situations causing death the same punishment.

Very sad indeed, I guess the only people who can really justify what justice would or should be is the family and friends concerned, no amount of time behind bars will bring a life back, so as something out of this terrible accident prevents it happening again.
 
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