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Studs usually loose jump their youngstock like this in Scotland...then if they show talent, they keep them...if they don't....
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True, but wouldnt want to do it on a regular basis.

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Why would they?
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I dont know! I only mentioned it because I couldnt see any other reason why the poster didnt like the clip, but now it turns out it was the wrong clip so I'll shut up now!
 
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True, but wouldnt want to do it on a regular basis.

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Why would they?
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would you jump a 3yo on a regular basis??

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Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing, Katy?
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would you jump a 3yo on a regular basis??

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Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing, Katy?
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I', not sure, I'm lost too...
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Whether you loose jump a yearling or a two year old, I don't think it'll do them a whole lot of harm, as long as it's not everyday.......not sure about the bench wings though
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There are far worse things happening to horses....
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Well, I don't like how the jump is made or the fact they thought he should jump it 3-4 times so they can see what he can do as a yearling. And yes a yearling in the wild would jump something if it really had to, as in life or death, not many are made to though.
 
No harm at all, and I'm pretty sure most SJ yards will be doing the same with their youngsters (and I have worked in a SJ yard). That jump, was not big at all and the colt would put in way more effort when he bucks, which I'm sure he does a lot playing in the field. He could easily stop if he wanted, but no, his ears are pricked and he's happy. Ok, if he was doing it every day not great but I'm sure that won't be the case. They do it now and again to gauge reaction and ability. I've seen foals jumping things for fun, and often jumping nothing at all for fun!
 
I did wonder why everyone was referring to a colt when teh video said 3 yr old KWPN mare??? Will now watch proper vid!

Cant see any problem with that? That horse will make a good showjumper if thats how its jumping now!
 
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Cant see any problem with that? That horse will make a good showjumper if thats how its jumping now!

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But surely if he's jumping now, like that, he's gonna ruin his joints and won't be ABLE to be a good show jumper for long?
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I'm not sure you completely understand what is going on Ahrena. SJ yards ALL do this with their youngstock, otherwise how in the world do you think they would figure out which horses to keep and which to sell on? They are only interested in keeping horses with good potential, not all of the duffers.

The only way to know, is to test them, and that is what they are doing in the video. Videos like this are also used as a sales pitch for any of their youngstock that they want to sell on to prospective buyers.
 
I get the 3 year old thing, I understand that but is jumping a yearling necessary? I've heard of 3 year olds jumping and stuff but never yearlings before.
 
A very expensive yearling was sold from my farm a couple of months ago....and I mean VERY expensive. Her potential buyers wanted video footage of how the yearling moved, including her jumping as she was being bought as an potential eventer. The filly was jumped over some small jumps 3 or 4 times, as in this video, to show her style. The buyers bought her.
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This is all perfectly normal business practice.
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Um, Hello?! That skewbald is being jumped on a solid surface!! Some sort of concrete hard standing! the whole 'jumping lane' has been set up in some sort of garage!

No problem with loose jumping a young horse, but do have a problem with horses being jumped on concrete, yes !
 
Doesn't look like concrete to me - if it is I'd be suing the contractor that laid it - if you look where the girl is you can clearly see its not a hard surface!
 
I personally wouldn't ever loose jump a yearling as I do think its too young. However, Im not apalled by it since the jump is kept nice and small. I personally wouldn't use benches as the tunnel either but again, not apalled.

I don't see any conrete or garage... looks like a regular indoor school on a regular dirt / sand surface?!
 
Look at the positives....both horses in both vids are a good weight, look healthy and happy, are sound (as far as you can see), and are not being scared over fences, by shouting, or excessive whip use.
Studs may do this once or so with their youngstock, to see which ones have a natural pop...they certainly wouldn't have time to be doing it more often, anyway.
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I don't have any problem with the youngster being jumped. So ok it looks green at the first couple of attempts until realising what it needs to do and its last jump is a much improved performance.
So long as a horse this young is just being jumped to make a video for potential buyers then that is fine but I would be very concerned if a yearling was being asked to jump fences ( no matter how small) on a daily or weekly basis.
I would be very concerned about it leading to any future problems particularly with joints and it also affecting normal growth patterns.
The surface looks fine to me also. It does not look scared to jump, just a little apprehensive ( well it is a green youngster after all) and I have no concerns on welfare grounds at all.
It was mentioned earlier about 3 year olds jumping well in national hunt racing they jump them over flights of hurdles at 3.
Personally I don't necessarily like this practice and long for the days of the old fashioned chasing types. Bred for the jumping game. Typical store horses. Put in a field and let them grow and strengthen and then race at around 5 onwards. However those days are long gone and more and more flat bred individuals are crossing over to the national hunt scene, but many imo lack the physique and constitution to be able to cope with the demands of a long national hunt career.
I am not referring to French bred jumping horses since they do appear to be more precocious, hence the reason many trainers exploited a loop hole for 4 year old weight -for -age allowances in novice chases ( now tightened) for several years. These types are usually built for the game and seem to mature quicker, but in my view that comes at a price and many 'French' imports seem to go 'off the boil' after a few years in Britain.
No the horses I am referring to are the slight looking ( lacking size and scope) flat horses being asked to join the bigger boys over jumps because their impatient owners want 'something' to run like now! and not have to wait a few years for a 'store' horse to mature before running.
Rant over sorry, another issue for another day but just mentioned it as someone said about 3 year old jumping.
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I see, I never realised studs jumped yearlings, never heard of it before xD Only 3 year olds.

The only thing is, she's planning on keeping this horse, backing him at 2 and has jumped him more than once (there's more videos of her doing it).

I understand why a stud would want to do it though, if someone wants to be a top jumper prospective yearling, you want to make sure its got natural talent, even if I don't like the idea.
 
nope fine to me, small jump, nothing that they wouldnt do in the wild if running scared! - no-one on its back....ok not too high and not every day but plenty of people do it.
Not a bad thing to see whats in the melting pot out of your youngstock, if they have a style that shines thro....then even better!
 
Well that was a bit of a surprise and I'm so glad about the positive responses for the first video as it is a horse I know!
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Was bothered by the second and actual cause for concern as the horse was a real baby.
 
Yeah I still feel horribly embarrised I posted the wrong video. If the owners see this, please someone tell them I didn't mean them. xD Incidently I used that other video as an example to someone of a youngster who I thought is ready to start loose jumping because she seems much happier than the other one.
 
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