Doberman in need of a home!

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ZEUS is being rehomed due to owners not having the time for him. The husband works away a lot and the wife has baby and young child to care for so this dog is now living more or less on his own in the back garden. He has an area at the end of the house to sleep in. Zeus was very pleased to see me and over excited; a little over the top but to be expected from a dog that has no attention. He used to be taken for lead walks but tends to run off for sometimes 45 min's at a time, but this is probably because he is frustrated so he no longer goes out. Zeus is showing signs of being very upset from his isolated living conditions. He is an intelligent sweet dog, who was once part of the family - he whimpers and barks as he can see the family through the window. Zeus is lovely with children and very pleased to see the family child. Zeus is allowed in the house occasionally for a short time when the children are in bed. Zeus needs someone to spend time with him, he needs love, warmth, good food and training and he will be a super boy, I feel very affected by this boy, he is so desperate to be noticed again, it took all my strength to not take him back with me, hopefully someone will come along really soon for him

You can see a pic of him here http://www.aritaur.co.uk/New_Home_Please.html
 
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Oh he's gorgeous!!

Bless him - It does make me mad when people exclude the dog cos something 'better' comes along...
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I guess that is where I differ as Finn/Tink ARE my babies
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Bless him - It does make me mad when people exclude the dog cos something 'better' comes along...
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[/ QUOTE ] But surely it is better that people seek a more suitable home for the dog, than just let the dog be frustrated and unhappy. Unfortunately people don't realise until after they have a baby how difficult it is to exercise a large, exuberant dog whilst pushing a pushchair.

At least they haven't abandoned the dog to rescue kennels.
 
Its no better off than being in a 'kennel' at the moment. It has been effectively abandoned to an extent. the picture on the website is from 2005 when it says he 'was' part of the family so its been in this situation for over a year.

Poor guy makes me want to go home and squeeze my puppy even more!
 
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But surely it is better that people seek a more suitable home for the dog, than just let the dog be frustrated and unhappy. Unfortunately people don't realise until after they have a baby how difficult it is to exercise a large, exuberant dog whilst pushing a pushchair.

[/ QUOTE ]So get a dog walker in? Sorry but people know if they are planning to have a family - trouble is people do not think ahead, OK so not all 'families' are planned... but you tak eon an animal and it is a responsibility!!

You don't just shut it out in the garden and forget about it!!
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At least they haven't abandoned the dog to rescue kennels.

[/ QUOTE ]Surely it's abandoned where he is? For a loving pet to a disgarded yard dog?! I don't think he would be any worse off at a rescue centre TBH!!!

I hope he finds a loving home!!
 
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its been in this situation for over a year.

[/ QUOTE ] It's a shame then, that they didn't make a decision to rehome it earlier
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So get a dog walker in? Sorry but people know if they are planning to have a family - trouble is people do not think ahead, OK so not all 'families' are planned... but you tak eon an animal and it is a responsibility!!

[/ QUOTE ] I suspect there is more to it than just walking the dogs, sounds like the mother doesn't want to leave the young children in the same room as the dog, which to some extent I can understand as toddlers especially can poke and pull dogs around and could provoke the dog to bite.

But I do agree they should have thought about the consequences of buying a large dog if they were planning a family, and they shouldn't have left it this long to find it another home.
 
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I suspect there is more to it than just walking the dogs, sounds like the mother doesn't want to leave the young children in the same room as the dog, which to some extent I can understand as toddlers especially can poke and pull dogs around and could provoke the dog to bite.

But I do agree they should have thought about the consequences of buying a large dog if they were planning a family, and they shouldn't have left it this long to find it another home.

[/ QUOTE ]Hmm Om so get a dog gate and keep him in the kitchen/living room/utility room? There are ways to seperate the dog rather than shut him out completely?!
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Such a shame - it just seems he has grown to much hassle and not WANTED in the family
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Hmm Om so get a dog gate and keep him in the kitchen/living room/utility room? There are ways to seperate the dog rather than shut him out completely?!

[/ QUOTE ] But that's not really a much better option as he is still separated from the family most of the time, and lacking the attention he obviously relishes. I think it is difficult to judge others without knowing the whole circumstances.

And although you say Tinks is one of your babies, you are still considering making him sleep outside because he messes in the house!
 
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But that's not really a much better option as he is still separated from the family most of the time, and lacking the attention he obviously relishes.

[/ QUOTE ]Of course it is!! "Zeus is showing signs of being very upset from his isolated living conditions"
He'll be IN the family home... it's inevitable that someone will need to go to the kitchen to get a drink! - Unlike needing to go to the garden!!!
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I think it is difficult to judge others without knowing the whole circumstances.

[/ QUOTE ]True HOWEVER the link states this "ZEUS is being rehomed due to owners not having the time for him. The husband works away a lot and the wife has baby and young child to care for so this dog is now living more or less on his own in the back garden." basically they can't be a*sed so have shut him out of their lives!!
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And although you say Tinks is one of your babies, you are still considering making him sleep outside because he messes in the house!

[/ QUOTE ]Yes it is an option, he is one of my babies but if he can not learn that OUTSIDE is where he p*sses and sh*ts then he will have to live out there - Correct me if I'm wrong but at NO POINT have I stated that he won't be allowed in the house/won't have any attention cos I don't have time/other priorities/won't get walked!? SO really this has absolutely nothing to do with this situation!! It is unhygenic that he is using the house as a toilet - so something has to be done and kenneling him outside would be the last option.. HOWEVER he has been clean the past few night, thank you for mentioning it!!!
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True HOWEVER the link states this "ZEUS is being rehomed due to owners not having the time for him. The husband works away a lot and the wife has baby and young child to care for so this dog is now living more or less on his own in the back garden." basically they can't be a*sed so have shut him out of their lives!!

[/ QUOTE ] Yes they are wrong to shut him out, but to say that they 'can't be a*sed' is harsh if you have no idea of the circumstances. For all you know the mother could be suffering from post-natal depression, and even if she wasn't, it is bl**dy hard coping with a large exuberant dog in the house when you have young children. Have you ever tried negotiating a dog gate with a baby in your arms and a large dog bouncing around you? Or trying to let a dog out who wants to go to the toilet whilst you are feeding a baby? I've been in that situation and it was very, very hard, and I did at least have a hubby who wasn't working away. I can't condone their actions, but I can see why they ended up in that situation.

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SO really this has absolutely nothing to do with this situation!!

[/ QUOTE ]It does in so far that it makes you realise how you can be driven to the end of your tether by a dog problem!
 
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Yes they are wrong to shut him out, but to say that they 'can't be a*sed' is harsh if you have no idea of the circumstances.

[/ QUOTE ]IT SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!
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For all you know the mother could be suffering from post-natal depression, and even if she wasn't, it is bl**dy hard coping with a large exuberant dog in the house when you have young children. Have you ever tried negotiating a dog gate with a baby in your arms and a large dog bouncing around you? Or trying to let a dog out who wants to go to the toilet whilst you are feeding a baby? I've been in that situation and it was very, very hard, and I did at least have a hubby who wasn't working away. I can't condone their actions, but I can see why they ended up in that situation.

[/ QUOTE ]Clearly you know I haven't as you know I don't have children HOWEVER we do have a 5yr old child in the house AND a 5 stone Rhodesian Ridgeback puppy/a lurcher and a 14yr old girl... we have a dog gate and yes there is 'scuffles' at times to get through .. HOWEVER if a dog has any manners it will understand that pack leader holding baby/plates/washing etc etc goes first!?!

You get out what you put in....

As for letting dog out for a wee... then do it before you sit down to feed the baby!? Honestly I'm sorry but I don't see that there is ANY reason why both dog/child can't be looked after together!!!

HOW can you give something up that HAS and was once been part of the family (which according to the link doesn't have a problem and is a wonderful dog) because you don't have time... they obviously aren't thinking about whats best for the dog if it is being shut outside to live on it's own!! No Way!!

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It does in so far that it makes you realise how you can be driven to the end of your tether by a dog problem!

[/ QUOTE ]No it really doesn't, sorry TGM but the dog in this advert is not noted as having a 'problem' that has pushed them to the end of their tether!? and the solution if at the end of their tether is not to shut it outside and forget about it!!
 
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]IT SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ] There is a big difference between 'not being ar$ed' and not having the time!
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Clearly you know I haven't as you know I don't have children HOWEVER we do have a 5yr old child in the house AND a 5 stone Rhodesian Ridgeback puppy/a lurcher and a 14yr old girl... we have a dog gate and yes there is 'scuffles' at times to get through .. HOWEVER if a dog has any manners it will understand that pack leader holding baby/plates/washing etc etc goes first!?!

[/ QUOTE ] That is not the same as have very young children in the house all the time. Plus your OH is there as well to help! You also have plenty of time to train the dogs and give them attention when the children aren't there, which isn't the case for this other family.

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HOW can you give something up that HAS and was once been part of the family (which according to the link doesn't have a problem and is a wonderful dog) because you don't have time

[/ QUOTE ] But if they don't have time to train the dog and give it fuss and attention, surely it is better to seek a new home for it?

We seem to be going round and round in circles here - I can understand why the family ended up in this situation (although I don't condone their actions) but you can't. I doubt either of us will change our opinion, but I'm sure we both agree that the most important thing is the dog finds a new home whose owners will have plenty of time and attention to give it.
 
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There is a big difference between 'not being ar$ed' and not having the time!


[/ QUOTE ]Yes - but by shutting it out in the garden indicates that they don't WANT to try!!
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That is not the same as have very young children in the house all the time. Plus your OH is there as well to help!

[/ QUOTE ]And as you said so was yours... I'm sorry TGM I'm not getting into a debate with you about this!!

You can MAKE time if you want too.. NO MATTER WHAT!! - A child sleeps...!!! Yes the mother may want to sleep too... BUT there is still time!! END OF!!!
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You also have plenty of time to train the dogs and give them attention when the children aren't there, which isn't the case for this other family.

[/ QUOTE ]Erm the children are ALWAYS there!!!
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You don't know my situation TGM, I work I have a horse, we have kids, we have 2 dogs!!!

OH doesn't get in til late and goes out early so DON'T start on about MY situation when you know naff all about it!!!
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But if they don't have time to train the dog and give it fuss and attention, surely it is better to seek a new home for it?

[/ QUOTE ]Yes so why shut it in the yard, it'd be better off in a rescue home who are PROACTIVELY seeking a new home, rather than shoved in the yard and forgotten!!! Surely common sense tells you that?
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We seem to be going round and round in circles here - I can understand why the family ended up in this situation (although I don't condone their actions) but you can't.

[/ QUOTE ]Yes we do - your telling me that you can't talk about someones situation when you know nothing about that.. yet your trying to tell me about MY situation?!
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I CAN see why they get into a situation where they can't cope with the dog.. what I CAN'T see is why they chuck the dog in the garden out of the family unit and let it get on with it and put it in a highly stressful situation which it clearly doesn't suit!!!
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I doubt either of us will change our opinion, but I'm sure we both agree that the most important thing is the dog finds a new home whose owners will have plenty of time and attention to give it.

[/ QUOTE ]No I won't change my opinion... I'm sorry but IMO there is no excuse for not being responsible dog owners.. if you can't cope with the dog, re-home IMMEDIATLEY don't put the poor animal through the stress of rejection/emotional stress... to sit and watch your own family play 'Happy Families' without you has got to be FAR worse than rehoming.... poor dog will have 'issues' if he's not seen too soon
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And as you said so was yours

[/ QUOTE ] Not during the day he wasn't, plus this lady's husband works away a lot as well!

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You can MAKE time if you want too.. NO MATTER WHAT!! - A child sleeps...!!!

[/ QUOTE ] Yes - and it does say the dog was let back into the house when the children were in bed!

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Erm the children are ALWAYS there!!!
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You don't know my situation TGM, I work I have a horse, we have kids, we have 2 dogs!!!

[/ QUOTE ] I apologise, I didn't know the kids lived with you full time - I assumed your OH just had them on access visits. Still they are school age, which is much easier than a toddler and a baby! I found life much easier when my daughter started school!

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if you can't cope with the dog, re-home IMMEDIATLEY don't put the poor animal through the stress of rejection/emotional stress... to sit and watch your own family play 'Happy Families' without you has got to be FAR worse than rehoming.... poor dog will have 'issues' if he's not seen too soon
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[/ QUOTE ] I can quite agree with you on that, and I have said earlier in the post that they should have not let the situation get to the point where they were shutting the dog in the garden, but should have rehomed when they realised they couldn't cope.
 
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Not during the day he wasn't, plus this lady's husband works away a lot as well!

[/ QUOTE ]Indeed... so again their situation has changed, if she could not cope/give the dog the time he required something should have been done sooner...
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Yes - and it does say the dog was let back into the house when the children were in bed!

[/ QUOTE ]"Zeus is allowed in the house occasionally for a short time when the children are in bed."

To me occasionally doesn't mean everynight and for short periods? Don't shout to me that he is in very often... but to make a dog go from having full household access to limited times... as in a half hour here once a week for example isn't on!

(FYI incase you decide to bring up the Tinker situation - he would have been required to be outside to sleep... and come in first thing and go back out last thing)
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I apologise, I didn't know the kids lived with you full time - I assumed your OH just had them on access visits. Still they are school age, which is much easier than a toddler and a baby! I found life much easier when my daughter started school!

[/ QUOTE ]Again it's a case of ASSUMING - I can only ASSUME from what is written about this porr dog the situation the family have got themselves in.. likewise you assumed the kids weren't at home with us....

Neither of us know the situation in which the family made the decision to shut the dog in the garden.. however we both see that it is not right and totally unfair on the dog!!!
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I can quite agree with you on that, and I have said earlier in the post that they should have not let the situation get to the point where they were shutting the dog in the garden, but should have rehomed when they realised they couldn't cope.

[/ QUOTE ]Indeed they should... which is why it screams "Couldn't be bothered to deal with the situation"
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Blimey! I seem to be pushing all your wrong buttons today! All I was trying to say in the first place is that I can understand why a mother with a baby and a toddler and a husband who works away a lot would find it difficult to cope with a large, exuberant dog and seek to have it rehomed!

But all along I have said they were wrong to shut it out and wrong to take so long to make a decision. Let's just hope the dog finds a good home quickly.
 
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Got a bit more info

He is three years old entire , good with small children, is very affectionate - don't know about cats ! Is apparently good with other dogs, is housed trained, and is not known to be destructive.

[/ QUOTE ]Aww bless him.. I want him to have a wonderful home!! Poor Lad...

Ohh your little Dobie would LOVE an older bro CLS!!
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Poor boy...I hope he finds a home soon he sounds lovely, but if nothing is done soon he could end up with severe behavioural problems surely? It iis my understanding that Dobs are very intelligent people dogs and need good stimulation, plenty of walks, exercising and play time etc?
 
im incredibly tempted after reading further details from the rescue ladies visit that she didnt want appearing anywhere.

I am head over heels for my little man and wouldnt want anything to jeopardise his happiness (ie in the future when he matures) and all the cool stuff we do like going off to events with my friend and her puppy in the lorry and going to the stables where they play for hours and HOURS would no longer be an option ( i wouldnt want anyone to feel put upon!)so both would have to stay behind at home which wouldnt be right, so im being 'strong' at the moment.
 
Its nice that you are helping and hopefully someone on the forum may be able to network and help towards this.

I think all you can do is put up postcards in all the local shops, vets, feed merchants etc and see what comes up.

I rehomed a friends dobbie a couple of years ago and it has been a huge success story. It can take a while, but it is worth it.
 
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im incredibly tempted after reading further details from the rescue ladies visit that she didnt want appearing anywhere.

I am head over heels for my little man and wouldnt want anything to jeopardise his happiness (ie in the future when he matures) and all the cool stuff we do like going off to events with my friend and her puppy in the lorry and going to the stables where they play for hours and HOURS would no longer be an option ( i wouldnt want anyone to feel put upon!)so both would have to stay behind at home which wouldnt be right, so im being 'strong' at the moment.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah I do know what you mean.. thankfully OH takes our other dog shooting whilst finny comes to the yard with me etc!!
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