Does anyone BSJA in a market harborough?

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If so why do you use it and is it effective?

Just wondering if my horse would benefit from being jumped in one this winter as he is so rude with his head. Basically he is a 17hh TB who short bouncy canter is very hard especially indoors and a lot of his finding it hard comes out in being very rude. In lessons/at home he is very good because you can spend time circling, setting up the canter and getting it just right before you jump but do not have this luxury competing. Outdoors it is not quite so bad as more space and time but I want to crack his SJ and a market harborough is one of the things I have been thinking about.
 
I didn't use it at competitions but jumped a horse on it and it wasn't a good idea for that horse.
The reason it was used was becasue he could be very strong in canter. However, once on it seemed to really interfere with his jump. He also started hollowing and avoiding the stretch over the jump which he has never ever done without mh.
I only have this one experience though so it could have just been the case of this particular horse.
Jumps were small - not higher than 3'3ft.
 
i used one on one horse it was so upside down and was always schooled in draw reins so it seemed the logical martingale to me as it is a self inducing draw rein after all but IMO if you are jumping big you really do need to release the contact over spreads in particular or they cant strectch enough to make the distance
 
Our big grey boy is being jumped BSJA in one at the moment, if anyone remembers the argument a couple of weeks ago about jumping with draw reins, well we're trying him in a market harborough to see if that works. He jumps well at home but when he gets excited (esp in competition, and even more so indoors) he puts his head up (which at 17.3/18hh is really quite high!!) and therefore doesn't look at his jumps, hollows his back and ends up falling through his jumps - draw reins worked beautifully but we needed to find a competition solution. I find (I'm only watching) that he seems to need is head more and can't stretch out/down enough over jumps when in the market harborough, so I don't really think its the solution - again I'd be very interested to hear other peoples thoughts, and to see if anyone else has any ideas!!
 
I use a market harbrough to school on the flat but I wouldn't jump in it for the reason you give above about restricting their movement through the head and neck.

Having said that, I have seen loads of people at BSJA shows warming up in both side reins and market harbroughs.

You don't say how old he is - if the problem relates to him getting over-excited away from home that may resolve with experience and time.
 
Umm my horse really uses his neck so I guess that rules it out. I thought they might be quite giving but I guess to get him in the short compressed canter I want it would not work. Looks like it will be the sheepskin noseband next then!!
 
I BSJA mine in a well fitting, elasticated standing mart. I dont like running mart or MHs because I think (IMO) the only thing that should act on their mouths should be a result of what your hands do- probably just because I think mouths are so easily made sour.
I have him jumping on video and my trainer says its prob the only correctly fitted mart shes seen! Has helped his "I know best but I dont really have a clue" mode no end..
(In my siggy he is SJ in it..)
 
iv used one on one one my horses, he is rather strong and doesnt like having anything too strong in his mouth, he allways used to rush at his fences, having the market harborough on gave me alot more control and ment i wasnt having a fight towards a jump, after riding in it at home and competing in it a few times i took it off and he stopped pulling, it sorted out that problem, equaly (as someone said above) a standing martingale which has an elastic part on it , i feel does the same thing, some people feel it restricts their movement, but iv schooled around a 1.25 course and competed in 1.10, and jumped derbys in one with no problems at all.
 
I used to jump my very whizzy sharp 15.3 TB ex racer in one. We only jumped up to Newcomer height though. She would bounce on the spot with a usual check before a fence even with your leg on and it was just enough to lower her head so she could see the fence. I didnt really find that is restricted her over the fence, it seemed to remind her not to be so rude!
 
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